What "consequences" will get them to change? You don't punish. You deal. No punishment will work. (Reply #6)

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Sat Jan 15, 2022, 11:59 PM

LENNY0229 (185 posts)

6. What "consequences" will get them to change? You don't punish. You deal. No punishment will work.

The more Biden "punishes" Manchin, the more he makes him flip to R and the more the folks back in WV like Manchin.

This person is completely off base and naive.

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51 replies	Author	Time	Post
Manchin and Sinema Must Face 'Consequences' for Stalling Voting Rights, Democratic Rep Says [View all]	Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin	Jan 2022	OP
Damn right	elleng	Jan 2022	#1
What consequences? Go sit in the corner? Time out? That's ridiculous. Find ways to make deals.	LENNY0229	Jan 2022	#8
You mean pay them more than what they're getting elsewhere?	KPN	Jan 2022	#12
What sort of punishment do you envision? As if "consequences" are going to help.	LENNY0229	Jan 2022	#22
And	inthewind21	Jan 2022	#48
would he like them flogged?	Takket	Jan 2022	#2
There's always	jaysunb	Jan 2022	#5
"Russia" ! won't be that for to mail a check !	monkeyman1	Jan 2022	#11
✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ n/t	msfiddlestix	Jan 2022	#31
The executive branch has all kinds of tools that	KPN	Jan 2022	#14
That means continuing NEGOTIATIONS and not punishing them which will only worsen the situation.	LENNY0229	Jan 2022	#23
Only if the other party negotiates in good faith can you negotiate. If not,	KPN	Jan 2022	#35
And Sinema and Manchin take a walk to the GOP side and we lose the majority immediately.	Demsrule86	Jan 2022	#43
"Negotiations are possible, pressuring or punishing them is not." Maybe, maybe not.	KPN	Jan 2022	#47
Tell me	inthewind21	Jan 2022	#49
What can be done really? Sinema will face a primary challenger and AZ Dems are thinking of	PortTack	Jan 2022	#3
I donated when she ran for the Senate. Won't be making that mistake again.	calimary	Jan 2022	#17
I've gotta feelin Bernie will find a way.	InAbLuEsTaTe	Jan 2022	#4
By blaming Dems for people voting for Trump?	LENNY0229	Jan 2022	#7
I doubt it.	TexasTowelie	Jan 2022	#13
Find a way to do what?	Demsrule86	Jan 2022	#44
Bernie has spoken... bring it Bernie!!	InAbLuEsTaTe	Jan 2022	#51
What "consequences" will get them to change? You don't punish. You deal. No punishment will work.	LENNY0229	Jan 2022	#6
"consequences" are for poor people anyway	ck4829	Jan 2022	#41
Nina Turner sezBiden needs to "gas up his jet" go to WV & AZ and move	oasis	Jan 2022	#9
I'm certain that Biden pays a lot of attention to Nina Turner for political advice.	TexasTowelie	Jan 2022	#15
I'm just glad a public figure is finally putting those two on blast.	oasis	Jan 2022	#16
But putting them on blast isn't going to help. It will only worsen things. You never get what you	LENNY0229	Jan 2022	#24
Oh boy	msfiddlestix	Jan 2022	#32
Defeated in run for Marcia Fudge's vacated congressional seat in Ohio. nt	oasis	Jan 2022	#34
✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ n/t	msfiddlestix	Jan 2022	#37
Doubt Senators from AZ and WVA care much	onenote	Jan 2022	#10
"Prison?" PatrickforB asked hopefully... n/t	PatrickforB	Jan 2022	#18
....	KPN	Jan 2022	#36
Their political careers, as "Democrats", must end	Blue Owl	Jan 2022	#19
Oh that is a great idea and then McConnell is back in charge.	Demsrule86	Jan 2022	#29
Newsflash	inthewind21	Jan 2022	#50
God no, I will take them 100 times over handing the Senate to McConnell...check out the states	Demsrule86	Jan 2022	#45
Am there now.	UTUSN	Jan 2022	#20
Sinema is finished.	radius777	Jan 2022	#21
If Ruben Gallego runs against Sinema in the 2024 AZ Dem Senate primary, he will crush her.	Celerity	Jan 2022	#25
+1	Roisin Ni Fiachra	Jan 2022	#28
+1. Those colors were shown a long time ago.	radius777	Jan 2022	#39
That is not true...I believe firmly in voting rights but I can count and there are not enough votes.	Demsrule86	Jan 2022	#46
That is simply untrue...a GOP is just as likely to win...maybe more so since the state is playing	Demsrule86	Jan 2022	#30
Of course it's a toss up state, that's what a purple state is.	radius777	Jan 2022	#38
+1	Celerity	Jan 2022	#40
In a midterm, it will be dicey.	Demsrule86	Jan 2022	#42
The entire concept of democracy would change...	LiberatedUSA	Jan 2022	#26
All they care about is how deep your pockets are!	Emile	Jan 2022	#27
The punishment will be applied to the citizens of Arizona and West Virginia, not their Senators	Mr. Ected	Jan 2022	#33

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