The entire concept of democracy would change... (Reply #26)

In the discussion thread: Manchin and Sinema Must Face 'Consequences' for Stalling Voting Rights, Democratic Rep Says [View all]

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Sun Jan 16, 2022, 07:12 AM

LiberatedUSA (1,666 posts)

26. The entire concept of democracy would change...

…if the President could punish legislators for not voting for their bills.

Of course in this instance it is a catch-22, cause by not voting for voting rights, democracy may be changing down the road anyway.

I am not confident in our situation, as it feels like there are no more detours off this bad stretch of highway.

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51 replies	Author	Time	Post
Manchin and Sinema Must Face 'Consequences' for Stalling Voting Rights, Democratic Rep Says [View all]	Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin	Jan 2022	OP
Damn right	elleng	Jan 2022	#1
What consequences? Go sit in the corner? Time out? That's ridiculous. Find ways to make deals.	LENNY0229	Jan 2022	#8
You mean pay them more than what they're getting elsewhere?	KPN	Jan 2022	#12
What sort of punishment do you envision? As if "consequences" are going to help.	LENNY0229	Jan 2022	#22
And	inthewind21	Jan 2022	#48
would he like them flogged?	Takket	Jan 2022	#2
There's always	jaysunb	Jan 2022	#5
"Russia" ! won't be that for to mail a check !	monkeyman1	Jan 2022	#11
✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ n/t	msfiddlestix	Jan 2022	#31
The executive branch has all kinds of tools that	KPN	Jan 2022	#14
That means continuing NEGOTIATIONS and not punishing them which will only worsen the situation.	LENNY0229	Jan 2022	#23
Only if the other party negotiates in good faith can you negotiate. If not,	KPN	Jan 2022	#35
And Sinema and Manchin take a walk to the GOP side and we lose the majority immediately.	Demsrule86	Jan 2022	#43
"Negotiations are possible, pressuring or punishing them is not." Maybe, maybe not.	KPN	Jan 2022	#47
Tell me	inthewind21	Jan 2022	#49
What can be done really? Sinema will face a primary challenger and AZ Dems are thinking of	PortTack	Jan 2022	#3
I donated when she ran for the Senate. Won't be making that mistake again.	calimary	Jan 2022	#17
I've gotta feelin Bernie will find a way.	InAbLuEsTaTe	Jan 2022	#4
By blaming Dems for people voting for Trump?	LENNY0229	Jan 2022	#7
I doubt it.	TexasTowelie	Jan 2022	#13
Find a way to do what?	Demsrule86	Jan 2022	#44
Bernie has spoken... bring it Bernie!!	InAbLuEsTaTe	Jan 2022	#51
What "consequences" will get them to change? You don't punish. You deal. No punishment will work.	LENNY0229	Jan 2022	#6
"consequences" are for poor people anyway	ck4829	Jan 2022	#41
Nina Turner sezBiden needs to "gas up his jet" go to WV & AZ and move	oasis	Jan 2022	#9
I'm certain that Biden pays a lot of attention to Nina Turner for political advice.	TexasTowelie	Jan 2022	#15
I'm just glad a public figure is finally putting those two on blast.	oasis	Jan 2022	#16
But putting them on blast isn't going to help. It will only worsen things. You never get what you	LENNY0229	Jan 2022	#24
Oh boy	msfiddlestix	Jan 2022	#32
Defeated in run for Marcia Fudge's vacated congressional seat in Ohio. nt	oasis	Jan 2022	#34
✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ n/t	msfiddlestix	Jan 2022	#37
Doubt Senators from AZ and WVA care much	onenote	Jan 2022	#10
"Prison?" PatrickforB asked hopefully... n/t	PatrickforB	Jan 2022	#18
....	KPN	Jan 2022	#36
Their political careers, as "Democrats", must end	Blue Owl	Jan 2022	#19
Oh that is a great idea and then McConnell is back in charge.	Demsrule86	Jan 2022	#29
Newsflash	inthewind21	Jan 2022	#50
God no, I will take them 100 times over handing the Senate to McConnell...check out the states	Demsrule86	Jan 2022	#45
Am there now.	UTUSN	Jan 2022	#20
Sinema is finished.	radius777	Jan 2022	#21
If Ruben Gallego runs against Sinema in the 2024 AZ Dem Senate primary, he will crush her.	Celerity	Jan 2022	#25
+1	Roisin Ni Fiachra	Jan 2022	#28
+1. Those colors were shown a long time ago.	radius777	Jan 2022	#39
That is not true...I believe firmly in voting rights but I can count and there are not enough votes.	Demsrule86	Jan 2022	#46
That is simply untrue...a GOP is just as likely to win...maybe more so since the state is playing	Demsrule86	Jan 2022	#30
Of course it's a toss up state, that's what a purple state is.	radius777	Jan 2022	#38
+1	Celerity	Jan 2022	#40
In a midterm, it will be dicey.	Demsrule86	Jan 2022	#42
The entire concept of democracy would change...	LiberatedUSA	Jan 2022	#26
All they care about is how deep your pockets are!	Emile	Jan 2022	#27
The punishment will be applied to the citizens of Arizona and West Virginia, not their Senators	Mr. Ected	Jan 2022	#33

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