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Hekate

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39. Putin is attacking the EU the way he's attacking the US: with propaganda and cyber-weapons
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 10:18 PM
Jan 2022

He wants to break both entities apart. Well, Brexit worked.

To supplement my memory, here are some resources on the Trilateral Agreement. They are kind of randomly-selected opening paragraphs from a rich first page on a google search.


https://www.brookings.edu/research/the-trilateral-process-the-united-states-ukraine-russia-and-nuclear-weapons/
When the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991, Ukraine had the world’s third largest nuclear arsenal on its territory. When Ukrainian-Russian negotiations on removing these weapons from Ukraine appeared to break down in September 1993, the U.S. government engaged in a trilateral process with Ukraine and Russia. The result was the Trilateral Statement, signed in January 1994, under which Ukraine agreed to transfer the nuclear warheads to Russia for elimination. In return, Ukraine received security assurances from the United States, Russia and Britain; compensation for the economic value of the highly-enriched uranium in the warheads (which could be blended down and converted into fuel for nuclear reactors); and assistance from the United States in dismantling the missiles, missile silos, bombers and nuclear infrastructure on its territory. Steven Pifer recounts the history of this unique negotiation and describes the key lessons learned.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapons_and_Ukraine
Prior to 1991, Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union and had Soviet nuclear weapons in its territory.

On December 1, 1991, Ukraine, the second most powerful republic in the Soviet Union (USSR), voted overwhelmingly for independence, which ended any realistic chance of the Soviet Union staying together even on a limited scale.[1] More than 90% of the electorate expressed their support for Ukraine's declaration of independence, and they elected the chairman of the parliament, Leonid Kravchuk as the first president of the country. At the meetings in Brest, Belarus on December 8, and in Alma Ata on December 21, the leaders of Belarus, Russia, and Ukraine formally dissolved the Soviet Union and formed the Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS).

After the dissolution of the Soviet Union, Ukraine held about one third of the Soviet nuclear arsenal, the third largest in the world at the time, as well as significant means of its design and production.[2] 130 UR-100N intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBM) with six warheads each, 46 RT-23 Molodets ICBMs with ten warheads apiece, as well as 33 heavy bombers, totaling approximately 1,700 warheads remained on Ukrainian territory.[3] Formally, these weapons were controlled by the Commonwealth of Independent States.[4] In 1994 Ukraine agreed to destroy the weapons, and to join the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT).[5][6]


https://theconversation.com/ukraine-got-a-signed-commitment-in-1994-to-ensure-its-security-but-can-the-us-and-allies-stop-putins-aggression-now-173481
Ukraine got a signed commitment in 1994 to ensure its security – but can the US and allies stop Putin’s aggression now?
January 21, 2022 9.27am EST

We made a treaty w NATO partners. Chin music Jan 2022 #1
This is where I am as well Bettie Jan 2022 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2022 #4
The US has no treaty obligation with respect to Ukraine Klaralven Jan 2022 #6
So, you think it would be cool to allow Bettie Jan 2022 #7
Most former Warsaw Pact members are now members of NATO, so they are covered by treaty. Klaralven Jan 2022 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2022 #10
That's the point I was planning to make Bettie Jan 2022 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2022 #14
Ukraine is not a NATO member Klaralven Jan 2022 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2022 #16
I don't know what you mean muriel_volestrangler Jan 2022 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2022 #35
You need to express yourself better muriel_volestrangler Jan 2022 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2022 #46
Ukraine is 'NATO allied' and should be a NATO member radius777 Jan 2022 #43
But they're not n/t Polybius Jan 2022 #49
No war period. Demsrule86 Jan 2022 #32
It's what I've been thinking as well, Chin music. At some point Uncle Sam's word ... Hekate Jan 2022 #26
Re: staring down the jaws of the Russian Bear... Jedi Guy Jan 2022 #38
Putin is attacking the EU the way he's attacking the US: with propaganda and cyber-weapons Hekate Jan 2022 #39
"Security assurances" as presented in your post is a bit vague. Jedi Guy Jan 2022 #40
Didn't mean to be snarky about my search; just indicating there's a lot--and a lot I needed reminding Hekate Jan 2022 #41
We have no treaty with Ukraine. former9thward Jan 2022 #31
Ukraine isn't in NATO Polybius Jan 2022 #48
To defend the West and democracy, radius777 Jan 2022 #53
Screw that Polybius Jan 2022 #54
It's not about nation building like Iraq was, which was a war of choice. radius777 Feb 2022 #62
The Ukraine isn't in NATO iemanja Jan 2022 #55
Yep, this is apples and oranges. GoCubsGo Feb 2022 #59
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Feb 2022 #61
America is a one party system when it comes to war. Magoo48 Jan 2022 #3
Russia is already at war with us. Irish_Dem Jan 2022 #5
We were the Ukraine when Trump was President. Texaswitchy Jan 2022 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2022 #11
Calling it "the Ukraine" is Soviet speak -- stop that, please. W_HAMILTON Jan 2022 #30
Ok Texaswitchy Jan 2022 #37
Progressives trust Biden's leadership on Russia wellst0nev0ter Jan 2022 #13
Curious article, the author seems to be taking issue w/ progs taking stances that 80+% of DU agrees Celerity Jan 2022 #17
We now have a President with other tools .... albacore Jan 2022 #18
Yep. Texaswitchy Jan 2022 #20
Good points Hekate Jan 2022 #27
+1 crickets Jan 2022 #29
Anybody who wants to play the Ghandian role and lay in front of Russian tanks has my support. tirebiter Jan 2022 #19
I have cousins distant but still family in Czech Republic. Texaswitchy Jan 2022 #22
How are they doing now? Klaralven Jan 2022 #23
Ok. Texaswitchy Jan 2022 #25
All the best to them Hekate Jan 2022 #28
I'm certainly not on the Russian side... albacore Jan 2022 #33
There isn't going to be war with Russia iemanja Jan 2022 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2022 #24
Media Issue. They're fake not-pushing for War with Russia. haele Jan 2022 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2022 #45
"war" is a Strawman amaico Jan 2022 #44
This should be handled by the European Union and we need to Emile Jan 2022 #47
NOBODY IS ARGUING WE SHOULD BE ATTACKING RUSSIA. Tommy Carcetti Jan 2022 #50
Thank you! nt GoCubsGo Feb 2022 #60
I wasn't aware we were going to war with Russia... brooklynite Jan 2022 #51
It's a Strawman poll amaico Jan 2022 #52
Some folks posted elsewhere here on DU ... electric_blue68 Feb 2022 #56
This message was self-deleted by its author Roisin Ni Fiachra Feb 2022 #57
Putin is working to destabilize Ukraine from within first. Roisin Ni Fiachra Feb 2022 #58
+1. Putin is waging information warfare across the globe. radius777 Feb 2022 #63
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