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Ocelot II

(115,270 posts)
22. Exactly.
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 02:48 PM
Feb 2022

People are expecting DoJ to reveal the status of its investigation - evidence, witnesses, timelines, etc., which is just what investigators never do. Why tell your target everything about the case you are putting together against them?

DU "lawyers" Pantagruel Feb 2022 #1
You are correct KS Toronado Feb 2022 #15
The Mark Meadows indictment watch is a good example. L. Coyote Feb 2022 #31
but, but, but .. stopdiggin Feb 2022 #70
Won't it be nice to be able to tell us you were right? msfiddlestix Feb 2022 #89
I was going to say.. "TV lawyers Cha Feb 2022 #36
We'll know who's right when the "no bail" arrests start...... jaxexpat Feb 2022 #43
it is not the job of the Justice Dept to win elections stopdiggin Feb 2022 #71
Flawed? Hardly. Practical and realistic? Greatly. jaxexpat Feb 2022 #77
the ills that face our country stopdiggin Feb 2022 #79
America's ills are always and only fixed by..... jaxexpat Feb 2022 #81
DU lawyers? msfiddlestix Feb 2022 #88
Mueller investigation took 2 years dwayneb Feb 2022 #91
Can't wait to see the flow chart for T***p-World perps and Baked Potato Feb 2022 #2
Cable news has been against us since day one. Makes sense the lawyers pwb Feb 2022 #3
Emptywheel also points out that Meadows could be in much deeper shit Ocelot II Feb 2022 #4
Any reason they can't do 'both'.......... MyOwnPeace Feb 2022 #16
The subpoena charge is a misdemeanor. Better to wait and give him both barrels. Ocelot II Feb 2022 #18
"Better to wait and give him both barrels." MyOwnPeace Feb 2022 #21
What you gain by waiting is an airtight case. Ocelot II Feb 2022 #23
Does being charged with a lesser crime FoxNewsSucks Feb 2022 #28
No, but why not wait until you can bust them on all charges? Ocelot II Feb 2022 #32
That's a good point, FoxNewsSucks Feb 2022 #35
Prosecutors typically save up all possible charges Ocelot II Feb 2022 #38
Vs. the judge agreeing with the defense it was just one instance or a minor offense. LiberalFighter Feb 2022 #52
No, but there are issues around discovery and pleas. Case-builders don't want to tip their hands or Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2022 #34
Good question really. I don't get it ... KPN Feb 2022 #24
Prosecuting now slows down the rest of the investigation. LiberalFighter Feb 2022 #39
If our bench is so light that it cannot perform two necessary functions at once........ jaxexpat Feb 2022 #46
It is not about the bench being so light. LiberalFighter Feb 2022 #51
That lil million won't help either malaise Feb 2022 #61
THIS should be pinned to DU's front page Hekate Feb 2022 #5
Building an airtight case takes time Mz Pip Feb 2022 #6
The Jan 6th Committee perhaps, but not the DOJ while Biden is still POTUS. ProudMNDemocrat Feb 2022 #9
Building an airtight case takes witnesses and interviews, who has DOJ interviewed? dem4decades Feb 2022 #11
Why would they tell us? Ocelot II Feb 2022 #19
They wouldn't Mz Pip Feb 2022 #20
Exactly. Ocelot II Feb 2022 #22
All leaks don't come from DOJ, in fact none probably do. Defendants leak, their lawyers leak, court dem4decades Feb 2022 #27
They wouldn't, but those who were being questioned would fight it in court or leak it themselves. dem4decades Feb 2022 #25
Not true of all people who testify ... Trumpdumper Feb 2022 #37
If you had talked to DOJ or testified before a grand jury Ocelot II Feb 2022 #44
That is the foundation for a good theory about why we know so little........ jaxexpat Feb 2022 #48
We didn't even know that Trump's attorneys had met with Fulton DA for over a month afterwards. Nt Fiendish Thingy Feb 2022 #49
Good point. calimary Feb 2022 #33
Yes, though I retired some time ago. Ocelot II Feb 2022 #55
they can't shut down the DOJ. maxsolomon Feb 2022 #58
K&R PunkinPi Feb 2022 #7
Wonderful breakdown JustAnotherGen Feb 2022 #8
K & R Bookmarking FakeNoose Feb 2022 #10
Preet and Katyal are just "TV" lawyers? dem4decades Feb 2022 #12
She really has it in for Elie Honig! 50 Shades Of Blue Feb 2022 #13
Well Elie Honig has made some sloppy statements at the very least Bev54 Feb 2022 #26
I'm not defending him. Just saying she has it in for him - she goes after him on Twitter while 50 Shades Of Blue Feb 2022 #29
Perhaps true, those on CNN seem to be the worst, including Toobin. Bev54 Feb 2022 #30
Emptywheel is not someone I follow ever since fitzmas. She was so wrong! boston bean Feb 2022 #14
Your loss- she reports verifiable information that the MSM ignores. Nt Fiendish Thingy Feb 2022 #17
Like Fitzmas? Scrivener7 Feb 2022 #54
Strawman, they didn't need all this shit before announcing against Marilyn Mosby ... uponit7771 Feb 2022 #40
The person who wrote that seems to miss the real issue... Escurumbele Feb 2022 #41
+1 uponit7771 Feb 2022 #42
Absolutely! BlueJac Feb 2022 #45
That statement refers to Meadows' documents, which he is in the process of recovering Fiendish Thingy Feb 2022 #50
Its not just Meadows and I don't think anyone is convinced that these people haven't destroyed shit uponit7771 Feb 2022 #56
It's not the DOJ's job to "fully scream to the hilt", it's their job to investigate and prosecute Fiendish Thingy Feb 2022 #57
This is false on its face, if there's something wrong in America and the DOJ knows about it and the uponit7771 Feb 2022 #59
The DOJ "speaks" through indictments and prosecutions, not political grandstanding. Fiendish Thingy Feb 2022 #63
DOJ can indict, prosecute and speak out against wrong LOUDLY and OFTEN as they've done in the uponit7771 Feb 2022 #64
Feel free to list past examples where DOJ "screamed to the hilt" during an ongoing investigation. Nt Fiendish Thingy Feb 2022 #65
Don't know of any where they screamed to the hilt during on going investigations but there are uponit7771 Feb 2022 #66
So, you admit DOJ "screaming to the hilt" on January 6 is inappropriate Fiendish Thingy Feb 2022 #72
Don't know what you mean by "on Jan 6" but I do agree that the DOJ screaming J6 was wrong ... uponit7771 Feb 2022 #76
I meant screaming regarding the January 6 cases. Fiendish Thingy Feb 2022 #82
I don't think they should "scream" about cases at all even though they do sometimes. uponit7771 Feb 2022 #84
I love Marcy Wheeler gristy Feb 2022 #47
TFG is the equivalent of a mob boss, only even more dangerous Ocelot II Feb 2022 #53
Great post malaise Feb 2022 #60
facinating about Meadows..... Takket Feb 2022 #62
The hostility of the writer was unnecessary. As citizens, we have ecstatic Feb 2022 #67
If the article is true? It's based on publicly available court records and statements Fiendish Thingy Feb 2022 #83
Spit balls thrown at "tv lawyers".. EW seems confused/ msfiddlestix Feb 2022 #68
That qualifier is in reference to Meadows' documents, which are in the process of being turned over Fiendish Thingy Feb 2022 #73
ok. I gotcha. Thanks for clarification.. it seemed contradicting. msfiddlestix Feb 2022 #74
Meadows isn't going to jail.. mountain grammy Feb 2022 #85
If Meadows doesn't go to jail, it will only be because he has flipped and cooperated with DOJ Fiendish Thingy Feb 2022 #86
Believe me, I'll be more than happy to do that.. mountain grammy Feb 2022 #87
Lol, is Laurence Tribe a 'TV Lawyer'? radius777 Feb 2022 #69
Did you even read the emptywheel article? Fiendish Thingy Feb 2022 #75
Tribe has no idea what's going on in DOJ. Nada. Zero. Trumpdumper Feb 2022 #80
Marcy is terrific, thanks for posting n/t Just_Vote_Dem Feb 2022 #78
The Problem is NOT AG Garland. It is the TV controlled by the 1% sowing discord and confusion Tommymac Feb 2022 #90
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