Exactly. NATO's failure to expand *enough* (Reply #48)

In the discussion thread: A Finnish leftist has a few thoughts about the situation with Russia and Ukraine [View all]

Wed Feb 23, 2022, 01:51 PM

radius777 (3,406 posts)

48. Exactly. NATO's failure to expand enough

to include Georgia and Ukraine many years ago, is what is causing this current conflict.

You don't see Putin threatening any former Soviet state that is now a member of NATO, do you?

Unfortunately many in the West (either intentionally or unwittingly) have bought into the 'poor victimized Russia/bad NATO' Kremlin narrative.

It is the West that put Russia back on solid ground when they imploded under the weight of their own contradictions. We nursed them back to life - which was stupid. We should've shrunk Russia and its influence as much as possible and pushed them harder towards democracy.

Reply to this post

Back to OP Alert abuse Link to post in-thread

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum

Replies to this discussion thread

57 replies	Author	Time	Post
A Finnish leftist has a few thoughts about the situation with Russia and Ukraine [View all]	tenderfoot	Feb 2022	OP
An Excellent Piece, Ma'am	The Magistrate	Feb 2022	#1
Kicking for visability	SheltieLover	Feb 2022	#2
What's to prevent Ukraine from joining NATO at this point?	panader0	Feb 2022	#3
My understanding is that Ukraine has a lot of work to do before	Sherman A1	Feb 2022	#5
I have thought about this as well...I believe NATO should have a special session to bring Ukraine in	Escurumbele	Feb 2022	#29
Regular people don't care enough	Diraven	Feb 2022	#53
Sorry about the size. A friend of my dad's drew this after the USSR invaded Czechoslovakia in 1968	DFW	Feb 2022	#4
It's a little small...	hunter	Feb 2022	#7
Definitely	DFW	Feb 2022	#8
He doesn't care if his people starve to death, he has plenty of money and so his cronies	Escurumbele	Feb 2022	#30
If Putin continues down this path and lives long enough he'll be remembered...	hunter	Feb 2022	#35
Unless we freeze his oligarchs' offshore money.	mahina	Feb 2022	#37
Squeeze it up to make it bigger.	Captain Zero	Feb 2022	#43
It's small but has a big message.	Fla Dem	Feb 2022	#13
Both maternal and paternal grandparents fled the Carpathian Mountain region in early 1900.	sprinkleeninow	Feb 2022	#17
larger	Celerity	Feb 2022	#25
Phone or touch screen squeeze it up	Captain Zero	Feb 2022	#44
Wow, Herb Block!	not fooled	Feb 2022	#33
That was well said.	maxsolomon	Feb 2022	#6
K & R - I hope DUers READ and SHARE this!	FakeNoose	Feb 2022	#9
That was a very good (and timely) read! Thanks! nt	Torchlight	Feb 2022	#10
Had Hitler been smacked down when he invaded Poland, WWII might have ended earlier.	Lonestarblue	Feb 2022	#11
👍	sprinkleeninow	Feb 2022	#18
World history would be different if countries like the USA and some in Europe did not sit down	Escurumbele	Feb 2022	#31
It would have been easier...	Postal Grunt	Feb 2022	#47
+1, IT TOOK A YEAR for the French to truly mobilize because they thought Hitler WOULD NEVER	uponit7771	Feb 2022	#57
"What Putin seems to fear the most, rightly so, is that democratic revolution reaches Moscow."	Botany	Feb 2022	#12
I'm hoping...	SergeStorms	Feb 2022	#19
Most salient point among many perfect explanations of "how this?"	jaxexpat	Feb 2022	#22
KNR for this excellent find.	niyad	Feb 2022	#14
Answering for corruption if he loses power also a concern, lose everything, wealth, privilege, ...	L. Coyote	Feb 2022	#15
Nice little cottage.	SergeStorms	Feb 2022	#20
Imagine if Biden stole $1.5 billion to build a seaside cottage, Republicans would cheer,	L. Coyote	Feb 2022	#21
😁😁😁😁😁😁	SergeStorms	Feb 2022	#23
They'd only cheer if TFG did it	geardaddy	Feb 2022	#49
Truth,	L. Coyote	Feb 2022	#50
LOL	geardaddy	Feb 2022	#55
Great segment. Will take a few sessions to watch it all. Tanks!	erronis	Feb 2022	#46
Finished watching. I hope we can have one on the US oligarchs also.	erronis	Feb 2022	#56
Excellent.	LoisB	Feb 2022	#16
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Feb 2022	#24
wow, excellent article!!!	bluboid	Feb 2022	#26
A couple of asides. Finns know what it's like to live under the cloud of a constant menace, Russia.	Karadeniz	Feb 2022	#27
Kick to read later	PatSeg	Feb 2022	#28
Thank you very much.	Joinfortmill	Feb 2022	#32
Our Norwegian friends were very concerned during Trump's tenure.	summer_in_TX	Feb 2022	#34
100th Rec and a Kick	Hekate	Feb 2022	#36
Terve!	Wicked Blue	Feb 2022	#38
Kick and rec. Great post.	Scrivener7	Feb 2022	#39
Good Perspective	Mr. Steve	Feb 2022	#40
HOPE DU KEEPS THIS UP ALL DAY!	McKim	Feb 2022	#41
Excellent post! Thanks for sharing!	denvine	Feb 2022	#42
K&R	Wild blueberry	Feb 2022	#45
Exactly. NATO's failure to expand enough	radius777	Feb 2022	#48
Important perspective	Diraven	Feb 2022	#51
Good read. Thanks!	liberalla	Feb 2022	#52
Translation of Putin's speech:	Ghost Dog	Feb 2022	#54

Edit History

Please login to view edit histories.

48. Exactly. NATO's failure to expand *enough*

Edit History

48. Exactly. NATO's failure to expand enough