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Mon Feb 28, 2022, 03:08 PM Feb 2022

Update from Moscow - from a close friend [View all]

I have a friend who is from Crimea originally. She and her family survived 2014 but their business was ruined. She has lived in various places since then, mostly Odessa and Kiev but still owns some property in Kerch. I convinced her to get out of Ukraine several weeks ago and she packed up and moved to Moscow and is staying with a friend. She holds both Ukrainian and Russian passports. The climate in Moscow went from normal to total panic in three days.

As of an hour ago, there are busloads of SWAT police everywhere in Moscow. She said that if you try to go to McDonalds, you will get arrested. All the rails lines have stopped. All flights have stopped. ATMs are offline. Everyone is afraid of what happens next. The public mood has swung wildly in three days. Fear and panic reign.

On a personal note, I'm helping her navigate to Helsinki via car right now. She doesn't know what to do next. She has been thinking about Spain and applying for asylum there but has never been. If anyone has advice on prudent next steps, we would both appreciate it.

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Update from Moscow - from a close friend [View all] FrankChurchDem Feb 2022 OP
Maybe one of the Baltics? moondust Feb 2022 #1
the border itself may be a challenge Tetrachloride Feb 2022 #2
I lived for a year in Madrid Spain and loved it. Mild climate, great train transportation MLAA Feb 2022 #3
She has one contact in Barcelona that she's reached out to FrankChurchDem Feb 2022 #24
None at all it's beautiful and all the people I know who have been there loved it. MLAA Feb 2022 #25
Thanks FrankChurchDem Feb 2022 #26
Barcelona is my favorite city. tblue37 Feb 2022 #37
Go east, not west. Tomconroy Feb 2022 #4
East of Moscow? To Siberia or China? wnylib Feb 2022 #28
It seems unfair that the Russian people have to endure this unrest FakeNoose Feb 2022 #5
That kind of situation can cut two ways. Chainfire Feb 2022 #6
It has happened, though. soldierant Feb 2022 #23
+1 KentuckyWoman Mar 2022 #45
At some point Putin might close the borders? And cancel travel plans? Irish_Dem Feb 2022 #7
She should be okay crossing the border FrankChurchDem Feb 2022 #12
That is what people thought just before WWII. Irish_Dem Feb 2022 #13
I wonder what has happened to all those people arrested while protesting? Frustratedlady Feb 2022 #8
The Gulags James48 Feb 2022 #9
Nearly every scene I saw of the arrests were of women. Six or so "brave" police vs. a young woman. Frustratedlady Feb 2022 #10
Russian acquaintance sent me a private message L. Coyote Feb 2022 #11
The WORLD waits with you. Truly the best outcome for all sane people oldsoftie Feb 2022 #15
Yes we are. calimary Feb 2022 #32
"Fear and panic" is what Putin wanted for us pandr32 Feb 2022 #14
Some times it only takes a spark to ignite multigraincracker Feb 2022 #16
I would recommend Brussels or Paris. Beastly Boy Feb 2022 #17
I hope for the best for your friend. It must be terrifying. Please keep us updated on her situation. Fla Dem Feb 2022 #18
I hope Putin likes cooked goose... Karadeniz Feb 2022 #19
Hoping for safe passage for your friend AmBlue Feb 2022 #20
WOW !!! The whole country will notice now, their whole shit is about to collapse uponit7771 Feb 2022 #21
No visa requirement for Spain JoanofArgh Feb 2022 #22
Sounds like the entire world, soldierant Feb 2022 #27
Probably not unless/until their "god" meets an unfortunate fate. calimary Feb 2022 #33
I didn't mean here, or not just here - soldierant Mar 2022 #41
Imagine cilla4progress Feb 2022 #29
I know a Ukrainian woman who emigrated to Span decades ago. DFW Feb 2022 #30
Thanks DFW FrankChurchDem Feb 2022 #36
Recommended. H2O Man Feb 2022 #31
If Putin is mad enough to start lobbing tactical nukes, no place is safe Warpy Feb 2022 #34
Thanks everyone FrankChurchDem Feb 2022 #35
Safe Travels, and Good Luck to your friend! electric_blue68 Feb 2022 #38
If she speaks English Sgent Feb 2022 #39
This is heartbreaking. oxymoron Mar 2022 #40
Update: She did not make across the border FrankChurchDem Mar 2022 #42
There is an article in the NY Times reporting on a train between St. Petersburg and Helsinki mnhtnbb Mar 2022 #43
Putin is all in. Either her perseveres and breaks Ukraine, or he's done Azathoth Mar 2022 #44
Update: At the Kazakhstan border FrankChurchDem Mar 2022 #46
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