The far-left is pro-Putin and illiberal as much as the far-right is. (Reply #46)

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46. The far-left is pro-Putin and illiberal as much as the far-right is.

The far-left hates the West due to the expansion of capitalism and the MIC.
The far-right hates the West due to the expansion of diversity and rights for non-whites.
Putin hates the West due to the expansion of democracies and the weakening of autocracies like his.

Putin funds all of the fringe movements; they've found common cause though their motivations are different. They tend to view Putin as their hero in counterbalancing the US. They all fear NATO and the EU due to their role in expanding and defending Western military and economic interests.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all]	ColinC	Feb 2022	OP
UKR social media campaign against Putler has been devistating they're trying to fight back. Sounds..	uponit7771	Feb 2022	#1
Agree	MLAA	Feb 2022	#2
There is a lot of that, but even folks like Crystal Ball, etc. Seem to be saying wacky shit	ColinC	Feb 2022	#7
You mean the same Krystal Ball who was furious when	AkFemDem	Feb 2022	#16
Yeah that one. I knew she was batshit but not	ColinC	Feb 2022	#21
Chris Hedges has had quite a bit to say about Russia being "baited" into war.	shrike3	Feb 2022	#3
So weird. In that case the USSR should have invaded	ColinC	Feb 2022	#14
A friend shared one of his articles with me.	shrike3	Feb 2022	#17
It feels like a lot of good people including hedges have lost their way	ColinC	Feb 2022	#28
Yes, it's a shame, because he had a lot of good sense once upon a time.	shrike3	Feb 2022	#43
He literally wrote "war is a force that gives us meaning."	ColinC	Feb 2022	#47
Well, not bandwagoning, really.	shrike3	Feb 2022	#53
Fair enough	ColinC	Feb 2022	#54
I know it sucks. I'm just trying to be as fair as possible. Hedges used to be a good commentator.	shrike3	Feb 2022	#58
Which "Progressives" are you talking about? n/t	BlueGreenLady	Feb 2022	#4
Progressive.org I have no idea wtf that is.	ColinC	Feb 2022	#11
Rolf. Krystal Ball, well that explains a lot.	Budi	Feb 2022	#29
Thank you! I don't understand it much and I'm trying to figure it out.	ColinC	Feb 2022	#34
It's a magazine founded by the LaFollettes. Link to the article you're talking about?	WhiskeyGrinder	Feb 2022	#33
Here	ColinC	Feb 2022	#35
Okay, an op-ed from two CODEPINK members, unsurprising. It's hardly "so many progressives," though.	WhiskeyGrinder	Feb 2022	#36
More than 1 is too many to me. More than 2 is "so many"	ColinC	Feb 2022	#41
Ukraine should join NATO and no one should be allowed to interfere.	JasonMain	Feb 2022	#5
Ukraine atm (and this was the case before the Russian invasions as well) doesn't meet	Celerity	Feb 2022	#19
Then I wonder what is Pootie so worried about?	treestar	Feb 2022	#44
He doesn't want it to eventually happen. He is in ever deepening states of paranoia.	Celerity	Feb 2022	#51
Link?	Arazi	Feb 2022	#6
Trolls ....	Lovie777	Feb 2022	#8
First I ever heard about progressives backing Putin nt	doc03	Feb 2022	#9
Not a whole lot. Just a few somewhat prominent figures	ColinC	Feb 2022	#24
Anti-Democratic, generally populist groups identifying "progressive" but with	Hortensis	Feb 2022	#31
One article? Is there more or is this a soft lob to initiate some progressive bashing?	LT Barclay	Feb 2022	#10
The latter.	lagomorph777	Feb 2022	#27
Frustrating	Bettie	Feb 2022	#65
Greenwald, Gabbard, progressive.org, Krystal Ball, Chris hedges	ColinC	Feb 2022	#39
Chris Hedges. It's apparently all NATO's fault.	shrike3	Feb 2022	#50
Progressive.com is an American auto insurance site	Celerity	Feb 2022	#12
Progressive.org	ColinC	Feb 2022	#22
Oki, I went there. What article? A link in your OP would be most helpful.	Celerity	Feb 2022	#26
I don't want to share it in the op because it is a misleading article	ColinC	Feb 2022	#37
Well, that article is not doing what you claimed in the OP, as it was written weeks before	Celerity	Feb 2022	#57
Thank you. I think I might have jumped the gun on this.	ColinC	Feb 2022	#66
Great. Now I just switched my auto insurance thanks to you.	Hassin Bin Sober	Feb 2022	#48
...	ColinC	Feb 2022	#49
Hope I saved you a few quid!	Celerity	Feb 2022	#60
What you're missing is those are idiots. They might as well...	brush	Feb 2022	#13
THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻	LenaBaby61	Feb 2022	#59
Got a link?	ZenDem	Feb 2022	#15
Progressive.org	ColinC	Feb 2022	#25
They've fallen for Russian Propaganda	JustAnotherGen	Feb 2022	#18
They're getting appropriately called out. As in WTF.	Budi	Feb 2022	#20
There are those on the putative left, like Glenn Greenwald and Tulsi Gabbard,	Ocelot II	Feb 2022	#23
So true. A lot of actors hide various goals behind the term "progressive"	Hortensis	Feb 2022	#61
They are believing the Russky disinformation that has been targetted at them - this is how	Kashkakat v.2.0	Feb 2022	#30
The Progressive magazine is based in Madison Wisconsin	Tetrachloride	Feb 2022	#32
There has always been a small group of people on the left who support anyone...	Caliman73	Feb 2022	#38
This is actually not new...	orwell	Feb 2022	#40
Orwell's 'Notes On Nationalism', Sir, Remains Evergreen	The Magistrate	Feb 2022	#42
Sorry, not finding any such article on progressive.org Pls be careful ev and check things	Kashkakat v.2.0	Feb 2022	#45
Here	ColinC	Feb 2022	#52
The far-left is pro-Putin and illiberal as much as the far-right is.	radius777	Feb 2022	#46
I mean I identify with the far left and none of the things you mention	ColinC	Feb 2022	#62
Started with Victoria Nuland's cookies.	OilemFirchen	Feb 2022	#55
There has always been this group who are mainly conspiracy theists and grifters	JI7	Feb 2022	#56
Consortium News is being its usual self.	shrike3	Feb 2022	#63
Before Russia invaded, but had several giant armies amassed on various Ukrainian borders	Sapient Donkey	Feb 2022	#64

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