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In reply to the discussion: Democratic Socialists of America call on the US to withdraw from NATO [View all]herding cats
(19,549 posts)At least as we know it now. There's truthfully no defending such, let alone calling for the same.
Ukraine is not a NATO member, if we're being painfully honest, in part due to Putin's threats against Europe, and in part due to his previous meddling in their government.
NATO defends, not attacks. Which is why Putin wants us out and it to then be essentially broken. Putin wants to be able to attack with impunity and bring back wars for territory. Which is not hard to do if we were to become nationalist who refuse to engage in the reality we're all tied together and each democracy which falls to a dictator shifts the global power in favor of the bad guys (yes, as we're seeing there are actual global powers who are bad actors. Several of them and we need to be paying close attention.) and toward the dictators.
This is a beginning of a power grab by the bad actors if democratic countries were to let it happen. This isn't about NATO nations on his border. That's fluff, an excuse and untrue.