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43. 'I didn't watch the speech, but here's a smear from someone who didn't watch the speech either'
Wed Mar 2, 2022, 01:58 PM
Mar 2022

...they blocked me this morning for calling them out on this bullshit propaganda.

The tweet is worthy of the worst of our opposition. You took a made up smear at face value and catapaulted the propaganda here, having admitted you didn't even watch the speech.

Tlaib is accused of threatening the Democratic party, but she actually promoted the president's agenda and advocated for more. It's really stunning to see so many completely uninformed posters attacking this Democrat.

This one with a false tweet claiming Tlaib said she wants to 'take over the Democratic party.' Nothing Tlaib said is working as hard at that than this effort by some to divide this lifelong Dem from the party for making an innocuous political speech.

Weird that with the speech available for hours that critics haven't found one quote they can bandy about, like their false claims about it yesterday.

We have 'Blue Dogs' and 'Problem Solvers' Democrats who are actually working to keep major planks of the Democratic party and president's agenda from being enacted. Are they trying to 'take over the party?'

Rep. Tlaib threatens zero provisions of the Biden agenda, her vote basically inconsequential to their passage, even given her support for basically ALL of it, even the infrastructure bill, which Tlaib did NOT threaten with her protest vote against it with her very astute observation that Manchin would vote against BBB if they were decoupled.

Rep. Tlaib doesn't threaten any of the President's priorities, not in committee where Manchin and Sinema demanded cuts in legislation they didn't intend to vote for in the end, and not on the House floor at voting time.

You just can't say that about 'Blue Dogs' or 'Problem Solvers' who cozy up to republicans, like Manchin sitting on the republican side last night at the president's SOTU. That's a picture of real opposition, not made up propaganda.

Did Rep. Tlaib [View all] Mme. Defarge Mar 2022 OP
Does anyone care? Ocelot II Mar 2022 #1
She was all smiles after the speech lame54 Mar 2022 #2
No not really nycbos Mar 2022 #4
The OP obviously cares, or wouldn't have asked. nt. Mariana Mar 2022 #9
No, no one cares what this person had to say LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2022 #38
Wasn't on the major networks I watched... DemocraticPatriot Mar 2022 #3
Gee, I hope she didn't upset Josh Gottheimer gratuitous Mar 2022 #5
She kept saying there should be a Working Families Party majority, elect WFP candidates, betsuni Mar 2022 #6
It's a small thing, but I wish they'd dump that stupid name leftstreet Mar 2022 #8
but we are constantly ignored by politicians. iemanja Mar 2022 #24
Used to be middle/working class when talking about inequality and now it's only working class. betsuni Mar 2022 #25
Thank you! sheshe2 Mar 2022 #71
Thanks! herding cats Mar 2022 #18
The Governor of Iowa gave the GOP response. Lady Freedom Returns Mar 2022 #7
Somehow being a "rising star" in the republican party PatSeg Mar 2022 #37
No Gravitas As Far As I Could See Me. Mar 2022 #64
I really don't believe in attacking our progressives who are working hard for us. Samrob Mar 2022 #10
Tlaib said: "Despite some sensational coverage, it's simple: I'm giving a speech about supporting Celerity Mar 2022 #11
Do you find it odd dpibel Mar 2022 #21
Hmmm BradAllison Mar 2022 #49
Excuse you. W_HAMILTON Mar 2022 #19
Will never forgive the booing. Nothing Hillary or others said wasn't true. betsuni Mar 2022 #23
Exactly.. It's like you read my mind. Cha Mar 2022 #26
Pardon me, but I think it is wrong on both sides. I never said I agree with everything Samrob Mar 2022 #33
Once again, then you should be the one upset with them... W_HAMILTON Mar 2022 #41
Harrowing threats? sheshe2 Mar 2022 #78
The Infrastructure Bill is an important achievement and was highlighted question everything Mar 2022 #35
THat Would Be The Same HRC THat The Rep. Booed At One Point Me. Mar 2022 #65
I hope they listen to your advice... sheshe2 Mar 2022 #72
+1 betsuni Mar 2022 #75
;) sheshe2 Mar 2022 #76
"they dare to speak the truth when no one else will." betsuni Mar 2022 #77
Oh boy oh boy oh boy. sheshe2 Mar 2022 #79
I'm a Progressive, I want and believe in almost all progressive ideas but I worry walkingman Mar 2022 #12
Love to you. herding cats Mar 2022 #14
Just didn't live up to the hysteria dpibel Mar 2022 #13
I missed the hysteria, but where did you even see it? herding cats Mar 2022 #15
A good miss on your part (the hysteria) dpibel Mar 2022 #16
I'll see if I can find it and we can be 44 people. herding cats Mar 2022 #17
I didn't see any "hysteria" as was labeled.. Cha Mar 2022 #27
Ah, it was one of those things. herding cats Mar 2022 #34
Yes, We Want to WIN the MIDERMS.. FOR Cha Mar 2022 #48
Except that's one of their usual attacks. W_HAMILTON Mar 2022 #20
Friend dpibel Mar 2022 #22
yeah.. They Must Know that President Cha Mar 2022 #28
They have a list of executive orders they think Biden can do, but I'm not confident betsuni Mar 2022 #29
I'm betting Pres Biden Knows Cha Mar 2022 #31
When did he say this? Celerity Mar 2022 #30
There is nothing confusing about what candidate Biden said and then what President Biden affirmed lapucelle Mar 2022 #91
No. He did not answer the question at that presser, and there still is the ambiguity I laid out. Celerity Mar 2022 #93
Your New Yorker link goes to the very editorial written by candidate Biden that I cited in my post. lapucelle Mar 2022 #94
No. Celerity Mar 2022 #95
Actually yes. Follow the links. lapucelle Mar 2022 #101
This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Mar 2022 #102
That memo needs to be released as they have been sitting on it for 11 months (or longer) Celerity Mar 2022 #105
Chuck Schumer tweets WEEKLY that Pres. Biden should use his executive authority bigtree Mar 2022 #40
I disagree with it wherever it comes from. W_HAMILTON Mar 2022 #42
so to your criticism, our Majority leader, who is doing the exact thing, is hurting the party? bigtree Mar 2022 #44
It's a co-opted attack from Schumer... W_HAMILTON Mar 2022 #45
I understand there's a double standard for this woman bigtree Mar 2022 #46
it's not a double standard. W_HAMILTON Mar 2022 #47
they haven't attacked anyone in advocating for the president to use his executive powers bigtree Mar 2022 #58
Whatever you want to call it, it wrongly demoralizes and depresses young voters. W_HAMILTON Mar 2022 #63
what a bunch of nonsense. It's advocating for what young people are demanding bigtree Mar 2022 #73
I'd try the $10,000, citing the effects of the pandemic mvd Mar 2022 #88
Biden has cancelled $15 billion of student loans during his first year in office. lapucelle Mar 2022 #92
That's less than 1% of the total student debt load. Around 0.86%. Celerity Mar 2022 #96
And the point is...? Is the argument that President Biden should forgive $1,500,000,000 in debt owed lapucelle Mar 2022 #100
"We elect Democrats." betsuni Mar 2022 #104
More should be done mvd Mar 2022 #103
This message was self-deleted by its author betsuni Mar 2022 #106
'Leventy dimensional chess dpibel Mar 2022 #53
It takes away a priority issue for progressives that a challenger from his left could attack him on. W_HAMILTON Mar 2022 #62
+1000 Nixie Mar 2022 #70
Just to be clear, are you opposed to even the $10K in Student loan debt reduction IF Congress Celerity Mar 2022 #97
No, I am in favor of anything to help the people. W_HAMILTON Mar 2022 #98
I think it is still very much up in the air whether he can or cannot use an EO. He has been Celerity Mar 2022 #99
I would imagine that it most certainly could be included in a reconciliation bill... W_HAMILTON Mar 2022 #107
I do not see these attacks, I see a tonne of powerful Dems asking for the memo to be released, and Celerity Mar 2022 #108
And that's your opinion. W_HAMILTON Mar 2022 #111
It contained a list of things the Working Families Party wants Democratic President Biden to do lapucelle Mar 2022 #90
Sounds like it was quite unnecessary, then. Scrivener7 Mar 2022 #32
Yes she did. And Manchin sat with the Republicans, no complaints about that. Autumn Mar 2022 #36
Some people here probably had a tickle in their leg. BradAllison Mar 2022 #50
Plenty of complaints about that. betsuni Mar 2022 #57
I see you did not get a comment on your links. sheshe2 Mar 2022 #80
Well, I have no complaints about that. betsuni Mar 2022 #85
You make me laugh..... sheshe2 Mar 2022 #86
I did not watch this speech but I saw this on twitter LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2022 #39
'I didn't watch the speech, but here's a smear from someone who didn't watch the speech either' bigtree Mar 2022 #43
This message was self-deleted by its author BradAllison Mar 2022 #51
The Problem Solvers have a guy who was running bus trips to the Insurrection BradAllison Mar 2022 #54
I share your amazement dpibel Mar 2022 #55
When are you going to explain your understanding of Nixie Mar 2022 #60
I was very pleased with Colin Allred's speech on behalf of the Congressional Black Caucus LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2022 #68
Thanks for sharing Sunsky Mar 2022 #83
"I didn't watch her speech, I watched the speech of the guy I agree with" bigtree Mar 2022 #87
This message was self-deleted by its author dpibel Mar 2022 #52
Why should I watch the speech dpibel Mar 2022 #56
Actually I have followed and read their research. sheshe2 Mar 2022 #82
I have been following the Justice Democrats for a while LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2022 #89
"Obstructionist Democrats". This is the slippery slope Nixie Mar 2022 #61
Here's the transcript at the link below. rogue emissary Mar 2022 #59
No, Biden Can't Forgive Student Loans By Executive Order LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2022 #66
Majority Leader Chuck Schumer advocated for this again, just a few days ago bigtree Mar 2022 #81
Why hasn't Biden relased the memo he ordered the DOE to write as to whether he has the authority Celerity Mar 2022 #110
Speaker Nancy Pelosi says Pres. Biden does not have the power to forgive student loan debt LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2022 #112
She is not the sole determiner of that. You are ignoring the far greater number of Dem Senators Celerity Mar 2022 #113
Do you tire of being wrong? LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2022 #114
Release the memo. Celerity Mar 2022 #115
Again, do you ever tire of being wrong LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2022 #116
This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Mar 2022 #117
Biden talked multiple times about across-the-board student debt loan relief (not narrowly targeted). Celerity Mar 2022 #118
Again, you really enjoy being WRONG in your posts LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2022 #119
Thank you. betsuni Mar 2022 #120
It's clear that candidate Biden was calling for legislative action lapucelle Mar 2022 #121
None of the sources cited above supported the claim that Joe Biden promised to use executive power LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2022 #122
I am curious, what are the plans for the people who have paid off their debt. LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2022 #123
What would make anyone think that Kantrowitz is a "private student loan shill"? lapucelle Mar 2022 #124
Good post LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2022 #125
Did she sit with the Republicans? jalan48 Mar 2022 #67
Did she vote with Republicans? Nixie Mar 2022 #69
+1 betsuni Mar 2022 #74
+1 sheshe2 Mar 2022 #84
No, but Joe Manchin did. Emile Mar 2022 #109
I keep seeing demands that Joe Biden cancel student loans when we need legislation to do this LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2022 #126
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