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Duncan Grant

(8,262 posts)
53. Contextualizing violence isn't helpful. It's wrong.
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 10:39 AM
Mar 2022

Nothing I saw of Will Smith’s behavior can be excused or explained. There’s no “under the circumstances, I understand why” argument to be made.

Will Smith trespassed, intimated, slapped, assaulted and screamed at a comedian in front of untold millions. In my mind, that’s the real issue, not words or “comedy”. The sick minds thing? That was Will Smith believing he had the right to beat down a comedian at the Academy Awards.

I understand you found the words cruel. That is difficult. I simply find the physical violence and its subsequent “let’s pretend it didn’t happen” response to be appalling and unacceptable. Some corrective action needs to be taken.

You are correct. LastDemocratInSC Mar 2022 #1
Does not justify a physical assault though Blues Heron Mar 2022 #2
I'm sorry, but there are some times it IS justified. DinahMoeHum Mar 2022 #4
I know - Ive heard that talking point since this happened - its wrong Blues Heron Mar 2022 #5
Yep Lunabell Mar 2022 #15
Bullshit! USALiberal Mar 2022 #20
Just. Don't. Punch. People. USALiberal Mar 2022 #25
The correct response should have been just to get up and walk out Mrhyde719 Mar 2022 #43
You've never been shot at uponit7771 Mar 2022 #51
Amazing people have restrained themselves through all the awards shows of the past then. BlackSkimmer Mar 2022 #68
Good luck with that line of argument in court. meadowlander Mar 2022 #71
Got that right: "Laughing at someone elses problem is the sign of a sick mind." Sociopaths! /nt bucolic_frolic Mar 2022 #3
It is freak show level amusement nt ripcord Mar 2022 #98
I'm fine with someone standing up to protect a disabled Black woman. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2022 #6
Standing up to you means punching them in the face? USALiberal Mar 2022 #23
Sometimes, yes. Sometimes it means a slap. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2022 #24
And hopefully it mean to jail for the puncher. USALiberal Mar 2022 #26
Lol WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2022 #27
Bully growing up?? USALiberal Mar 2022 #28
Honestly, yep, a couple times. Bullied and was bullied, as were many kids. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2022 #32
I am too. But he wasn't protecting her. fishwax Mar 2022 #46
Shes not disabled. oldsoftie Mar 2022 #50
Disabled? BlackSkimmer Mar 2022 #69
Exactly. meadowlander Mar 2022 #72
Exactly. BlackSkimmer Mar 2022 #81
same here. hell, if it were considered a "disability" give me the benefits. Hell I'll just take the Javaman Mar 2022 #82
Lol, I'll have to remember to ask my doc for one of those stickers next time lol. BlackSkimmer Mar 2022 #84
Jada Pickett can stand up for herself. BlackSkimmer Mar 2022 #70
Well there's one vote for violence equals love BannonsLiver Mar 2022 #89
I would rather he took him down with words. TNNurse Mar 2022 #7
I didn't watch but what you just said summed things up for me. AllyCat Mar 2022 #8
Being compared to Demi Moore is not hurtful. Emile Mar 2022 #9
Well, great. LisaL Mar 2022 #10
+1 Wahyee Mar 2022 #35
" Being compared to Demi Moore is not hurtful." heckles65 Mar 2022 #11
I bet the right would like this concept. LiberatedUSA Mar 2022 #12
Exactly! dumbcat Mar 2022 #39
There have been times I would have liked to do what Will Smith did to hurtful people. I lack the Srkdqltr Mar 2022 #13
Stick and stones ChazII Mar 2022 #14
I'm on team Will and Jada. Lunabell Mar 2022 #16
It wasn't the heat of the moment though. cemaphonic Mar 2022 #76
I bet everyone who has been the butt of others "jokes" was cheering. Srkdqltr Mar 2022 #17
you'd lose that bet fishwax Mar 2022 #48
Wrong kcr Mar 2022 #88
Yes, they do. Act_of_Reparation Mar 2022 #18
IMO both of their behaviors were an abomination Auggie Mar 2022 #19
I think ForgedCrank Mar 2022 #67
+1: "Classic dick waving" Auggie Mar 2022 #74
Where do you draw the line? Evergreen Emerald Mar 2022 #21
+1 Wahyee Mar 2022 #36
This. You have to give weight to those words...they don't HURT like a physical assault. nt Baltimike Mar 2022 #56
Even if someone physically hits you, you can't hit them back except in self defense. meadowlander Mar 2022 #73
Like the Chris Rock thing at the Oscars? Or Trumpy mocking the reporter with disabilities? PatrickforB Mar 2022 #22
I don't think Rock was making fun of problems. SYFROYH Mar 2022 #29
Jada Pinkett Smith may have alopecia... ECL213 Mar 2022 #30
You know this how? neohippie Mar 2022 #37
one thing people seem to miss is that smith laughed at the "joke" AlexSFCA Mar 2022 #31
Good lesson to learn. Keep it in mind. People don't like being made fun of. Srkdqltr Mar 2022 #40
Well that's not true. I would think Ukrainians, for example, would rather be offended Wingus Dingus Mar 2022 #33
The Ukrainians are being bullied, they have every right to fight back. Srkdqltr Mar 2022 #59
Trump needs at least 1000 nowforever Mar 2022 #34
For the it was out of love crowd. Traildogbob Mar 2022 #38
Yep. Lack of civility on display. If you don't like what someone says, Wingus Dingus Mar 2022 #42
With the hair trigger Traildogbob Mar 2022 #61
People better not watch Comedy Central roasts! rictofen Mar 2022 #41
Personally I don't find those things funny. Srkdqltr Mar 2022 #44
Except this is Hollywood. Not real world living. Jetheels Mar 2022 #45
+1, I am blown away at the tacit support of violence in the place of maturity in the face of words uponit7771 Mar 2022 #49
Actors are the most coddled species on this planet. When they are on set there is an entire Jetheels Mar 2022 #60
+1, and there were people hugging his ass and shit afterwards. Commit an act of violence that uponit7771 Mar 2022 #62
Oh yea the Vanity Fair party. Jetheels Mar 2022 #64
Starting violence is ***NOT*** the mature way to handle words that hurt uponit7771 Mar 2022 #47
We know this to be true in so many ways. Until it is a joke we want to laugh at or a LizBeth Mar 2022 #52
Contextualizing violence isn't helpful. It's wrong. Duncan Grant Mar 2022 #53
No excuse for physical violence in response to words. Goodheart Mar 2022 #54
I find it amazing that people don't consider the implications of a woman being humiliated in public. 58Sunliner Mar 2022 #55
How to be sure it was ridiculing? treestar Mar 2022 #86
Straw men don't count. Please don't try to tell me he did not know. 58Sunliner Mar 2022 #94
How would you know any better than I what he knows? treestar Mar 2022 #96
One of my favorite quotes from Eleanor Roosevelt: Hieronymus Phact Mar 2022 #57
People need to remember this one more treestar Mar 2022 #87
Chris Rock needed that nowforever Mar 2022 #58
You're advocating for physical violence. Not a good look. Duncan Grant Mar 2022 #63
You shouldn't be stunned. Jedi Guy Mar 2022 #65
Saw my pride flag, eh? Duncan Grant Mar 2022 #83
I didn't see your pride flag since I was posting from my phone. Jedi Guy Mar 2022 #85
Your remark sounds remarkably like a right-wing talking point. 58Sunliner Mar 2022 #95
Calling for people to be jailed for speech one dislikes happens quite frequently here on DU. Jedi Guy Mar 2022 #97
Violence is unjustified here. live love laugh Mar 2022 #80
What a ridiculous, uninformed point of view. BannonsLiver Mar 2022 #90
Comedians do it all the time Catherine Vincent Mar 2022 #66
If Chris Rock didn't know about the alopecia, would that make a difference? gulliver Mar 2022 #75
I agree. I didn't know. I thought it was a choice. live love laugh Mar 2022 #78
Yes, motive treestar Mar 2022 #92
Trump proved that. live love laugh Mar 2022 #77
Normally I would say yes, but these folksare professionals attending an event where the comedians... SYFROYH Mar 2022 #79
Everybody has a point where they will react BGBD Mar 2022 #91
I don't know if anyone cksmithy Mar 2022 #93
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