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myccrider

(484 posts)
21. I've known for years...
Wed Apr 27, 2022, 07:53 PM
Apr 2022

and wish there was snowball’s chance it could be implemented in the US.

1) It would remove the whole "suppress the vote" motive/expense. More time, effort and money could be spent educating and selling policy to voters instead of just striving to convince them to show up.

2) It would greatly reduce efforts to make voting more difficult because, since every one votes, any politician closing polling places, registration shenanigans, reducing access to mail voting and all the other ways to make voting painful would irritate everyone and probably reduce their electability. In fact, making voting mandatory would likely create huge pressure to make it as easy as possible!

3) I’d suggest an opt-out option on each ballot, maybe for each race/proposition that let’s those who don’t want to vote to choose "no" on voting. OTOH, if you have to vote anyway, I’d bet more people would pay attention to at least some races and issues.

4) The whole "do you really want to force people who don’t want to vote?" is profoundly anti-democratic. The point is to have "all the people" participate in the franchise, not a contest to see who can mobilize the most for their tribe. I reject the whole argument. Many people don’t vote because it’s difficult or they’re cynical about democracy or a huge variety of reasons. As someone else said, we don’t like taxes but we all are required to participate. Especially by adding an opt-out of some sort and universal mail-in voting, those who really, really don’t want to "bother" can just check that box, sign the form and be done.

5) If everyone votes there is less room for claims of voter fraud (not that that wouldn’t still be a thing for the RW). If the number of votes matches closely enough to the number of adults, a lot of extra votes would stand out, making it harder to float those claims.

There’s a few other positives I see with it, but these are my main reasons for liking the idea.

I've known that for decades. Many nations do. brooklynite Apr 2022 #1
What better way to get people to become engaged? CloudWatcher Apr 2022 #4
I did. 2naSalit Apr 2022 #2
I don't like this idea ripcord Apr 2022 #3
We can disagree CloudWatcher Apr 2022 #5
Except many are going to not pay attention but still vote if made to. nt EX500rider Apr 2022 #8
That's the way I feel too. If s person isn't interested or care enough to vote Raine Apr 2022 #13
You can leave your ballot blank drmeow Apr 2022 #20
Agreed - in fact, this idea is such an appalling infringement on personal liberty that I would vote Midwestern Democrat Apr 2022 #23
I have known about this for a long time. PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2022 #6
National boundaries CloudWatcher Apr 2022 #7
Yes. At this point I have no idea what it might be possible. PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2022 #15
I would have no problem requiring people to vote... Ohio Joe Apr 2022 #9
I'm in Colorado, too momta Apr 2022 #10
I used to be a member of an online group with an Australian member who complained betsuni Apr 2022 #11
I think I know her canetoad Apr 2022 #16
Did you ever see the black helicopters? betsuni Apr 2022 #17
I knew this. But I'm a government teacher. I think it's a bad idea Bucky Apr 2022 #12
Then don't fill out the ballot, put in the mail or the box blank. myccrider Apr 2022 #27
It's more like mandatory attendance, if you don't fill in the paper vote properly it doesn't count Eureka Apr 2022 #14
I'd like to see preferential voting, too! myccrider Apr 2022 #28
And if someone refuses? AnyFunctioningAdult Apr 2022 #18
It's the equivalent of a traffic or parking ticket. A HERETIC I AM Apr 2022 #19
Ah, so meaningless it is then AnyFunctioningAdult Apr 2022 #29
It's apparently enough of an incentive to get people to vote. A HERETIC I AM Apr 2022 #30
I've known for years... myccrider Apr 2022 #21
Yes! CloudWatcher Apr 2022 #22
We're on the same page. 😉 myccrider Apr 2022 #26
It would be unconstitutional in this country. former9thward Apr 2022 #24
I can't connect those dots! CloudWatcher Apr 2022 #25
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