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gulliver

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69. His heart and mind are both in the right place

Sat Apr 30, 2022, 08:19 PM

Apr 2022

His admirers aren't into his personality so much as his very evident ability to accomplish great things. I have yet to hear a good argument against him. Most of the arguments against him I've heard come across as arguments for him. They're so seemingly ill-considered and superficial that they backfire.

Musk is not the only area where we sometimes hear loud arguments from voices whose logical backup, reasoning, and effective morality (not "intended morality," effective morality) argue for their being more on the listening side than the talking side.

Musk's goal is a sustainable world of abundance for all. And he's someone who accomplishes what he sets out to accomplish.

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The Musk Cult of Personality: Why do some of us worship billionaires? [View all] Doc Sportello Apr 2022 OP

I love Tesla cars at140 Apr 2022 #1

Elon Musk did not invent Tesla. SunSeeker Apr 2022 #6

Granted, but Musk is responsible for growing the company nt at140 Apr 2022 #57

With lots of help from the federal government, n/t Mr.Bill Apr 2022 #70

The irony CrackityJones75 Apr 2022 #48

Tesla cars are too expensive for me to buy at140 Apr 2022 #59

Tesla has done more Igirl Apr 2022 #53

What % of electricity is still made by burning fossil fuels? at140 Apr 2022 #56

Huhhh? Igirl May 2022 #75

90% of US electricity is perhaps still fossil fuels at140 May 2022 #95

This was about Tesla ...musk..in Texas Igirl May 2022 #96

you right about Musk at140 May 2022 #97

That's still not an entirely true statement Igirl May 2022 #98

Of course you are right but TheFarseer May 2022 #83

My point is electricity by fossil fuels is too large at140 May 2022 #94

Nirvana Fallacy Logical fallacy. Igirl May 2022 #99

I don't care about him one way or the other...however I am impressed with what he has done EX500rider Apr 2022 #2

I'd be more impressed if he used his $ to help the poor. SunSeeker Apr 2022 #4

I agree. Lunabell Apr 2022 #9

+1000 smirkymonkey Apr 2022 #18

Well I guess he could give every person on the earth $34.00 EX500rider Apr 2022 #42

injecting $34.00 per person into the economies of the world CrackityJones75 Apr 2022 #50

That's only if he actually had all his money in the bank...he does not EX500rider Apr 2022 #62

Yep. And if he liquidated his paper wealth, it would be a lot less. Hoyt Apr 2022 #55

Exactly, people seem to think he has $200+ billion in the bank EX500rider Apr 2022 #61

And the other stockholders would sue him for tanking the stock. Hoyt Apr 2022 #64

Space Tourism Bettie May 2022 #82

Not enough unjustified hate. Hoyt Apr 2022 #5

Sure it is. Lunabell Apr 2022 #11

Did you look at the #9-called plan, and the original comment by WFP? Hoyt Apr 2022 #14

Try again. Lunabell Apr 2022 #15

+1 dalton99a Apr 2022 #17

He donated to a self-directed charity as I said, never said he donated to WFP. Hoyt Apr 2022 #19

Did you look at my post? Lunabell Apr 2022 #20

He sent a tweet to WFP, hardly a contract. WFP's plan was not Hoyt Apr 2022 #21

Lol Lunabell Apr 2022 #23

_ LudwigPastorius Apr 2022 #36

+1000 smirkymonkey Apr 2022 #49

+1 n/t area51 May 2022 #85

I could have sworn CrackityJones75 Apr 2022 #51

It was not a plan that anyone would commit $6 B to, they lost out. Hoyt Apr 2022 #66

What basis do you have for that claim? SunSeeker May 2022 #73

Agree. He just put $5.7 B in a self-directed charity. Maybe WFP ought to Hoyt May 2022 #74

Musk kept the identity of this "self-directed charity" a secret. SunSeeker May 2022 #76

So he's not bragging. Maybe WFP ought to wake up. He put up the money, Hoyt May 2022 #77

How do we know that he "put up the money" to a good cause, let alone to end hunger? SunSeeker May 2022 #80

Not secretive at all, especially when millions hate you for not reason. $5.7 B indicates to me Hoyt May 2022 #86

I used to admire Musk, until he tweeted a rescue diver was a "pedo guy." SunSeeker May 2022 #87

Post removed Post removed May 2022 #88

Wow. nt SunSeeker May 2022 #93

Space exploration cagefreesoylentgreen Apr 2022 #54

Yes whoever colonizes another planet can run it the way they want...no surprise there. EX500rider Apr 2022 #63

Yes, there will always be idiots admiring white male psychopaths. nt SunSeeker Apr 2022 #3

I think you nailed it. Always has and always will. walkingman Apr 2022 #22

"rooting for...a version of themselves" moondust Apr 2022 #7

My take on this money worship has been that these people think they are one big.... Thomas Hurt Apr 2022 #8

The really stupid ones wryter2000 Apr 2022 #29

Who here "worships" them? brooklynite Apr 2022 #10

I've seen some posts that are drooling in their support for him. Lunabell Apr 2022 #13

Compared to the hatred, you'd rate "he's not as bad as some people" as drooling. Hoyt Apr 2022 #16

And for you dpibel Apr 2022 #30

Yep Lunabell Apr 2022 #31

I was reading the comments on a NYT article about him the other day and some of them smirkymonkey Apr 2022 #32

"Musk was a bullied, unpopular nerd growing up" tenderfoot May 2022 #89

I'm not sure. I think he was the smallest kid in his class and he was probably a little strange, smirkymonkey May 2022 #91

Yup... true story. dixiechiken1 Apr 2022 #33

I'd say promoting electric cars & increasing space travel technology are hardly "vanity projects" EX500rider Apr 2022 #43

Like which ones? Kaleva May 2022 #79

Recommended. H2O Man Apr 2022 #12

A significant part of the magic of Sgt. Peppers.... spanone Apr 2022 #26

That album H2O Man Apr 2022 #38

It certainly does. One of my favorites of all time. spanone Apr 2022 #58

Does anyone worship him? LeftInTX Apr 2022 #24

I'm just not sure you're right about thst. Lunabell Apr 2022 #25

Who knows...he just doesn't have much of a personality.... LeftInTX Apr 2022 #27

I agree. H2O Man Apr 2022 #39

People that are worshipping that un-American pos are no different than trumpers rockfordfile Apr 2022 #28

"...they also reveal their own deep feelings of inadequacy." smirkymonkey Apr 2022 #34

Interesting. H2O Man Apr 2022 #40

Yes, I think that is it, in a nutshell. Good analogy! smirkymonkey Apr 2022 #47

Jim Carrey's quote on getting everything you wish for. Maraya1969 Apr 2022 #35

I find him to be very, very creepy. LisaM Apr 2022 #37

I find him creepy af. dixiechiken1 Apr 2022 #41

He believes that the planet needs more, many more, people. LudwigPastorius Apr 2022 #44

Just when. I thought he couldn't be more awful. LisaM Apr 2022 #52

I personally find him only slightly creepy LeftInTX Apr 2022 #60

Same here, he's creepy. hunter May 2022 #84

I'm surprised by the number of Musk stans here Rob H. Apr 2022 #45

I like the "I don't care about him one way or the other but I sure do worship him!" responses tenderfoot May 2022 #90

there aren't that many Diablo del sol Apr 2022 #46

People can do good work but still be utter assholes. Jon Voight is a very good actor but there chowder66 Apr 2022 #65

This. Lunabell Apr 2022 #67

You got one right here crying every time someone says anything Carlitos Brigante Apr 2022 #68

His heart and mind are both in the right place gulliver Apr 2022 #69

Exactly EX500rider Apr 2022 #71

Agree completely. Apparently that's the wrong side to take, though. Hoyt May 2022 #78

Again People that are worshipping that un-American pos are no different than trumpers rockfordfile Apr 2022 #72

I suspect that the same people who worship billionaires Roisin Ni Fiachra May 2022 #81

Have to post it: EX500rider May 2022 #92