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paleotn

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42. Had those in FL voted for Gore instead of Nader....
Wed May 18, 2022, 07:12 PM
May 2022

there wouldn't have been a second Bush. But, oh my gawd, we must stick to our "principles", fate of the fucking world be damned.

Discuss..... [View all] brooklynite May 2022 OP
I'm a Democratic socialist (small "s") who has ALWAYS... dchill May 2022 #1
+1 nt Javaman May 2022 #50
The beatings will continue until morale improves questionseverything May 2022 #59
I know, I know. It already started to rankle years ago. dchill May 2022 #67
I suppose some believe that beatings will raise morale. I do not. What fairy dust will Demsrule86 May 2022 #90
+1 insulting and divisive. Emile May 2022 #76
The young are politically naive, volatile, and easily misled bucolic_frolic May 2022 #2
There were over 6 million Obama-Trump voters AZProgressive May 2022 #3
From comparable studies of how voters have voted in the general after their CentralMass May 2022 #4
The difference is that Obama became president iemanja May 2022 #5
The other difference was both tRump and Hillary had historically low favorability ratings in 2016. CentralMass May 2022 #11
Please stop defending what happened in 16. I can't continue. As is stands women will die Demsrule86 May 2022 #79
+1 SunImp May 2022 #83
Clinton got 3,000,000+ votes more than MF45 FoxNewsSucks May 2022 #20
She lost inthewind21 May 2022 #82
Also, there's a huge difference between McCain and Trump. BlueCheeseAgain May 2022 #55
I think there is plenty of blame. I do not find your analysis convincing. Had those who Demsrule86 May 2022 #91
The impact tells the general election story. lapucelle Jul 2022 #111
Thank you for posting this LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2022 #115
Blame the left whenever right wing candidates win jcgoldie May 2022 #6
I'm not blaming them for 1972, 1980, 1984 and 1988.... brooklynite May 2022 #8
I blame Ted Kennedy for 1980. You primary a sitting president, you lose. NO Demsrule86 May 2022 #24
It's called math. paleotn May 2022 #44
I am a progressive and I vote in every election. I love Obama but he had one issue that I didn't Demsrule86 May 2022 #56
de rec nt Celerity May 2022 #7
Ah, yes! We used to say unrec around here. dchill May 2022 #68
Except ymetca May 2022 #9
maybe it works to go for what you really believe in MadameButterfly May 2022 #19
AMEN! FoxNewsSucks May 2022 #21
It has nothing to do with that. It is called party loyalty...they vote Republicans whether they Demsrule86 May 2022 #26
Progressives and anyone else should always vote the Democratic candidate. And the fact that some Demsrule86 May 2022 #39
Saying how someone else should vote isn't going to get them to vote MadameButterfly Jun 2022 #95
I don't believe if these voters are not motivated to vote after what has and is going on, we Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #96
They have a right to complain MadameButterfly Jun 2022 #101
Really, well I disagree. There are things I too would like. But I would NEVER withhold my vote Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #104
we don't disagree as much as you think MadameButterfly Jun 2022 #106
I saw these complaints up close and first hand LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2022 #116
Wasn't it the voters who chose Hillary wnylib May 2022 #48
I think that really only applies for Trump. plimsoll May 2022 #35
You misidentify lock step and pragmatism for purity. paleotn May 2022 #52
I agree. You won't always like every Democrat but all are better than Republicans especially Demsrule86 May 2022 #80
I agree. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #100
Is this a mad about Fetterman post? BeyondGeography May 2022 #10
I was wondering what the context of this was Sympthsical May 2022 #12
No. brooklynite May 2022 #13
No it is not. You know what Fetterman said when he was asked if he was progressive Demsrule86 May 2022 #28
Hey there BeyondGeography May 2022 #34
I agree. I don't really think this is about Fetterman although I have been told it was a proxy Demsrule86 May 2022 #43
I'm good BeyondGeography May 2022 #46
I do too...the numbers are not bad...I think we have shot. Tim Ryan is a good guy. Demsrule86 May 2022 #92
Me too! Demsrule86 Jul 2022 #113
!!!! BumRushDaShow May 2022 #32
Me thinks the op just likes to stir questionseverything May 2022 #41
Yes, and I got to say this post surprises me. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #105
My two cents... walkingman May 2022 #14
how was Berrnie a spoiler MadameButterfly May 2022 #16
Come on...the General was lost. Demsrule86 May 2022 #29
She got 3million more votes. FoxNewsSucks May 2022 #31
They didn't steal it...it was an electoral college win. Hillary had been damaged very badly by Demsrule86 May 2022 #47
They stole it legally. FoxNewsSucks May 2022 #70
Party Unity My Ass AZSkiffyGeek May 2022 #73
Really, Obama won election and it was a very close primary so Clinton supporters voted Demsrule86 May 2022 #75
That is absolute crap...The attacks continued in the General and you know it. Demsrule86 May 2022 #77
See the problem? ymetca May 2022 #71
It is not my fault but it is the fault of those who don't vote for the Democratic nominee in Demsrule86 May 2022 #74
If only that were true ymetca May 2022 #85
I heard the same thing with Gore and it is just plain wrong. In a close election every vote Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #98
+1 betsuni May 2022 #72
Democratic nominees are not destroyed by contetious primaries MadameButterfly Jun 2022 #94
I disagree...go back to 1980 with Kennedy, Carter never recovered. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #97
There's hardly a comparison MadameButterfly Jun 2022 #102
Look at any time that an incumbent was primaryed and it destroyed said election is the Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #103
Exactly, Hillary was not an incumbant MadameButterfly Jun 2022 #107
Hillary was damage goods after the primary...going into the General and the negativity did not Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #108
Hillary and her supporters MadameButterfly Jul 2022 #109
No denying that.. although Cha Jul 2022 #114
I know...every Justice who overturned Roe came from an election that a Democrat was fucked Demsrule86 Jul 2022 #118
I was a Clinton delegate to the 2016 convention and saw how Russia pushed Sanders supports to revolt LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2022 #110
I do...some however would like to change history. But it is what it is. Demsrule86 May 2022 #93
A lot of young people did not vote after their "man" did not win the primary. As far as walkingman May 2022 #69
Sanders' voters voted TFG in sufficient numbers to swing the key states LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2022 #112
Bernie as VP? Really? wnylib May 2022 #58
My interpretation: Make sure Democrats differentiate themselves from Republicans and listen to Autumn May 2022 #15
If enough on our side (nominally) keep voting that way autumn, we will have a Trump or a Demsrule86 May 2022 #30
Check your crystal ball and save your pious lecture. I have never missed an election Autumn May 2022 #36
Did I say you? I didn't you know. I merely pointed out that if folks vote as you described Demsrule86 May 2022 #49
My interpretation: every HORRIBLE President is a Repuke FakeNoose May 2022 #17
Gore got more votes FoxNewsSucks May 2022 #22
You are exactly...right! Demsrule86 May 2022 #78
Environmental activists? WTF? dpibel May 2022 #18
Yep. 58Sunliner May 2022 #27
+1000000 Demsrule86 May 2022 #23
It's nice to feel important. What has decided elections, besides Bush, which was thrown, 58Sunliner May 2022 #25
Right exactly, we didn't show up...sends a message doesn't. Of course I think the message is 'hey Demsrule86 May 2022 #37
I think we need a national program, of commercials, etc., telling people the importance of voting. 58Sunliner May 2022 #86
First of all, I know people who don't vote. When I GOTV, people tell me they don't vote and why.. Demsrule86 May 2022 #87
This message was self-deleted by its author Demsrule86 May 2022 #38
Had those in FL voted for Gore instead of Nader.... paleotn May 2022 #42
That is right. And the thing that drives me nuts is this...more than 20 years later with multiple Demsrule86 May 2022 #88
Haha...OK really well since we lost I assume the low turnout was on our side I find that tragic. Demsrule86 May 2022 #89
BEST friend Traildogbob May 2022 #33
Not all that admirable in my mind. paleotn May 2022 #40
If the ballots had been counted in 2000, gore would of won questionseverything May 2022 #45
It the Greens and others had not attacked Gore, he would have won easily and there would Demsrule86 May 2022 #53
He did easily win, the votes were not accurately counted questionseverything May 2022 #57
No Willto May 2022 #81
Idealogical purity is just another word for too stupid to figure it out. world wide wally May 2022 #51
I wish people realized that voting is not an act of love or devotion... BlueCheeseAgain May 2022 #54
Sirhan Sirhan had a LOT to do with any decisions that were made in 1968. 11 Bravo May 2022 #60
I was going to post a reply then I said AntivaxHunters May 2022 #61
I've got bad news for you Novara May 2022 #62
Then I guess Republicans will continue to win...as their voters are not doing that. Loyalty matters. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #99
Cheating! They cheat too. And they're damned proud of it. czarjak May 2022 #63
Heads Up. Next time may be our last time. Joinfortmill May 2022 #64
Captain Obvious Patton French May 2022 #65
my humble interpretation - bluboid May 2022 #66
I agree with your analysls LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2022 #117
Gracious! H2O Man May 2022 #84
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