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MineralMan

(146,281 posts)
20. Well, unlike many countries, we have a constitution that
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 02:12 PM
Jun 2022

includes language regarding the separation of church and state. Not very specific language, but language nevertheless.

The problem is that Christianity is clearly the dominant religion in this country. What that means is that there is a majority that adheres to that religion. That's a problem in a democratic system, since the majority can pass laws. The constitutional language is not specific enough, though, to ensure that displays of religion in government owned places and venues are not allowed. So, there's always a risk that a majority of some kind will push for such displays.

It took a very long time to get specifically religious prayers out of places like schools and government meetings. In fact, that was never 100% achieved. The words "under God" got inserted in our previously non-religious pledge of allegiance that way. That happened in the 1950s. Before then, it was not there. I learned it without the reference to a deity.

We eventually came to understand the first amendment to prohibit the government from having anything to do with religious worship, but the language remains unclear, so we have to fight that battle again and again. Now, we have a SCOTUS that seems ready to allow religious practices within government-sponsored events. We'll have to fight the battle again, it seems.

Might want to throw in a few BlueGreenLady Jun 2022 #1
Fine with me momta Jun 2022 #2
The Halftime show... Totally Tunsie Jun 2022 #3
Perfect! momta Jun 2022 #4
It's only Christians that want to make a public display of their faith. maxsolomon Jun 2022 #5
Really? Totally Tunsie Jun 2022 #6
Well spotted. nt BlackSkimmer Jun 2022 #8
in this context. there are no hare krishna football coaches. maxsolomon Jun 2022 #11
No one is calling you a hypocrite. Totally Tunsie Jun 2022 #19
OK. Thanks for the correction. maxsolomon Jun 2022 #24
Anything - even a hare krishna football coach - is a possibility Totally Tunsie Jun 2022 #25
Public displays of Christian piety. It's a performance. Duncan Grant Jun 2022 #7
Obviously they need it. rubbersole Jun 2022 #9
You can say that again. Duncan Grant Jun 2022 #12
Have you ever visited a country where there are (quite loud) calls to prayer on a regular basis? BlackSkimmer Jun 2022 #10
Yeah - and theirs is a different country, a different culture. Duncan Grant Jun 2022 #13
Well, you seem to have moved the goal post there just a wee bit. BlackSkimmer Jun 2022 #16
Implicit agreement that we're talking about current events in the U.S. Duncan Grant Jun 2022 #21
Actually in a section of Brooklyn where I would shop not that far from my neighborhood there were... electric_blue68 Jun 2022 #27
Yes. I lived in Turkey for 15 months while in the USAF. MineralMan Jun 2022 #14
Yes, it sure is. BlackSkimmer Jun 2022 #18
Well, unlike many countries, we have a constitution that MineralMan Jun 2022 #20
I absolutely agree with your points there. BlackSkimmer Jun 2022 #22
Yes, I know. And you were right to do so. MineralMan Jun 2022 #23
People should start booing. roamer65 Jun 2022 #15
The next time Kaepernick or anyone else takes a knee, Sogo Jun 2022 #17
+1, uponit7771 Jun 2022 #26
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