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RainDog

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76. exactly

Thu Nov 1, 2012, 07:17 PM

Nov 2012

And this thinking was the position of the Southern Baptists until they aligned, politically, with Catholics over this to create a coalition within the Republican Party.

So, the Southern Baptists changed their doctrine to match a version of Christianity that they routinely identified as "The Whore of Babylon" in Revelations.

Not that any of that has anything to do with reality, but it's indicative of the importance of opposing feminism and supporting anti civil rights actions from Republicans that coincided with the Southern Strategy.

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The Bible Tells Us When A Fetus Becomes A Living Being .. really read this its good. [View all] Ichingcarpenter Oct 2012 OP

This isn't a new argument... ohheckyeah Oct 2012 #1

I would prefer that we move away from biblical arguments altogether, MadHound Oct 2012 #2

I feel the same way. GreenPartyVoter Oct 2012 #4

I feel much the same - However, fighting the pro-zygote crowd with science GoneOffShore Oct 2012 #14

Yes, this is what they believe in . This is proof to them. The Wielding Truth Oct 2012 #40

I agree. Michigan Alum Nov 2012 #62

You are correct. MsPithy Nov 2012 #72

exactly RainDog Nov 2012 #76

Amen... onecent Oct 2012 #31

I don't but sometimes Ichingcarpenter Oct 2012 #8

it would be nice to have a response to their attitude that liberal_at_heart Oct 2012 #48

I don't know... In general I would agree with you but... Xyzse Oct 2012 #9

I disagree.... ohheckyeah Oct 2012 #11

I wish we could Heathen57 Oct 2012 #36

What you prefer and what sometimes has to happen WilliamPitt Oct 2012 #43

it's wasted breath in any event.... mike_c Oct 2012 #46

Exactly. CrispyQ Oct 2012 #55

I want to recommend this post. loudsue Nov 2012 #73

Colbert rocks! CrispyQ Nov 2012 #74

No it's not wasted breath.... ohheckyeah Nov 2012 #63

I didn't know this. The Breath of Life. Yes. libdem4life Oct 2012 #3

How do Republicans get around this? KansDem Oct 2012 #5

This enquiring mind wants to know. nt justiceischeap Oct 2012 #10

They say that the fetus breaths by using the oxygen in the blood. L0oniX Oct 2012 #54

Interesting counter argument defacto7 Oct 2012 #6

Will come in handy with rwingers BainsBane Oct 2012 #7

This shows their true colors treestar Oct 2012 #12

The sperm and ovum are alive on a cellular level before they unite. Qutzupalotl Oct 2012 #20

The fetus is not separate from the mother. JDPriestly Oct 2012 #27

Agreed. Qutzupalotl Oct 2012 #32

Bookmarking for later. Thanks! Lucinda Oct 2012 #13

left wing 'eisogesis' is as bad as right wing eisogesis. grantcart Oct 2012 #15

It's spelled ohheckyeah Nov 2012 #64

well actually I believe that it is spelled grantcart Nov 2012 #67

Actually, traditional Catholic teaching nichomachus Oct 2012 #16

In the Middle Ages, a Catholic priest told me, the fetus was not considered to be alive until the JDPriestly Oct 2012 #28

You were alive in the Middle Ages? GeorgeGist Oct 2012 #51

A Catholic priest told me that . . . . JDPriestly Oct 2012 #53

I don't know anyone who's felt a baby move in the third month. It's usually the fourth or fifth, gkhouston Nov 2012 #60

Actually, in Islam they believe the fetus gets its soul on the 120th day TexasBushwhacker Nov 2012 #61

End of the third month, which would be the beginning of the fourth month. JDPriestly Nov 2012 #77

Thanks. MissMarple Oct 2012 #17

I've always believed this Flying Dream Blues Oct 2012 #18

Also God commanded Moses not to count children under a month old in the census cags Oct 2012 #19

And don't forget God's commandment that all the children and babies of the Amalekites be murdered. cags Oct 2012 #22

FUNDAMENTALISTS SHOULD KNOW THIS FACT ROBROX Oct 2012 #21

yep, I always use that argument on Bible fappers. They find it hard to refute. librechik Oct 2012 #23

Those parts don't apply. obxhead Oct 2012 #24

I grew up reading the Bible. We are human beings from the moment we take our first breath. JDPriestly Oct 2012 #25

Bookmarked for later tnlurker Oct 2012 #26

K&R SunSeeker Oct 2012 #29

Nice, but it won't matter to the anti-choice crowd. Matariki Oct 2012 #30

Actually the generally held belief by all was that life began with the first breath until teewrex Oct 2012 #33

It's clear they don't really care about life. DaveJ Oct 2012 #34

And anti-death penalty KamaAina Oct 2012 #45

With respect, and understanding that in life... BlueNoteSpecial Oct 2012 #35

It's not so much an argument to convince the zealots rock Oct 2012 #37

Thanks for posting. Sherman A1 Oct 2012 #38

Great find. Thanks for posting! Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2012 #39

Will vs Choice Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2012 #41

logic won't work with these folks. spanone Oct 2012 #42

Bookmarked for future reference kentuck Oct 2012 #44

Recced and book marked. progressoid Oct 2012 #47

It's not the only part of the Bible they don't follow.... Wounded Bear Oct 2012 #49

I love how they quote Leviticus liberal_at_heart Oct 2012 #50

Your position might be better than the average fundy's, but your argument isn't. D23MIURG23 Oct 2012 #52

This is interesting to know. CrispyQ Oct 2012 #56

Yeah, I heard that upi402 Oct 2012 #57

Hence Orthodox Jews don't spout off the crap about it being a live human Sgent Oct 2012 #58

Meh. That's the Old Testament. Duer 157099 Nov 2012 #59

Whoa!!! The bible had EMOTICONS??? cui bono Nov 2012 #65

K&R-ing theinquisitivechad Nov 2012 #66

I find it interesting that religious christians today fasttense Nov 2012 #68

They don't care. The Doctor. Nov 2012 #69

The "pro-life" movement's goal isn't to stop abortions or to protect life YoungDemCA Nov 2012 #70

First breath SamKnause Nov 2012 #71

kindly keep all dogma away from my reproductive decisions PeaceNikki Nov 2012 #75

Further, abortion, using natural medications, existed MineralMan Nov 2012 #78