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FBaggins

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73. "Substantial" in no way justifies just making up your own number
Fri Sep 30, 2022, 11:05 AM
Sep 2022
CNN saying largest disaster in Florida's history

CNN isn't in a position to declare that something is the largest disaster in state history... nobody is.

"It bleeds it leads" drives reporting during a crisis. Reality takes a back seat until things are in the rear mirror.
Oh noes . ... Lovie777 Sep 2022 #1
It seems the number of fatalities is a mystery at this point for some reason Walleye Sep 2022 #2
My thoughts too! Emile Sep 2022 #3
It just struck me because in other disasters the death toll is one of the things you hear first Walleye Sep 2022 #6
No mystery. Brenda Sep 2022 #5
It reminds me of the way Trump tried to play down the Covid threat Walleye Sep 2022 #8
Same with Covid - BK DeathSentence is evil malaise Sep 2022 #12
Yes it's a shame we can't trust the information from the state governor at a time like this Walleye Sep 2022 #14
This time there is FEMA malaise Sep 2022 #16
I wonder why Biden and FEMA don't release the numbers? Irish_Dem Sep 2022 #25
They will malaise Sep 2022 #27
Yes it is looking like it is very bad. Irish_Dem Sep 2022 #36
They probably don't know the full extent of Bettie Sep 2022 #48
Yes. It's a bit premature. Remember, the focus is still on saving lives, Hortensis Sep 2022 #51
Yep, just like Covid undercount. Brenda Sep 2022 #18
It disturbed me when Biden said "deadliest storm" bedazzled Oct 2022 #117
Yeah, back in the day hurricanes killed thousands. Brenda Oct 2022 #119
My condolences on your grandpa bedazzled Oct 2022 #121
The ravaged communities are wealthy and White. sir pball Oct 2022 #142
Climbing fast malaise Sep 2022 #9
I kind of thought the recovery effort would make it difficult to determine the number of lives lost Walleye Sep 2022 #13
DeSantis will just leave the deceased bodies floating in the water,... magicarpet Sep 2022 #35
Well, we should believe the rescue workers are working themselves Hortensis Sep 2022 #53
Oh no..why did so many stay? Demovictory9 Oct 2022 #129
I have a family friend and his wife a few miles from Fort Myers malaise Oct 2022 #131
The reason is, authorities/rescue can't get in to the areas. 3Hotdogs Sep 2022 #17
mystery? These areas are in RUINS. It doesn't take a day to search them Takket Sep 2022 #33
Considering what Florida did with COVID statistics maxrandb Sep 2022 #39
I know. It's pretty bad that we can't really trust the state government. Walleye Sep 2022 #40
Storm surge. Some people may have been swept out to sea as it receded. haele Sep 2022 #42
Yes I really hope it's not worse than we are hearing but it looks really really bad Walleye Sep 2022 #43
The number of transients and homeless will probably be undercounted. haele Sep 2022 #46
That really is a tragic situation Walleye Sep 2022 #49
A lot of homeless shelters arrange extra capacity and get the word out Hortensis Sep 2022 #58
Per CNN: death toll is 19 brooklynite Sep 2022 #4
And no hurricane is heading for Florida malaise Sep 2022 #10
Undercounted by at least 1000 % ananda Sep 2022 #24
Based on what? brooklynite Sep 2022 #28
Based on rightwing lies and manipulation of the narrative. ananda Sep 2022 #32
You're saying (without evidence) that they're suppressing the death count? brooklynite Sep 2022 #34
Just look at what Florida did in reporting COVID deaths and transmission maxrandb Sep 2022 #44
Not remotely the same brooklynite Sep 2022 #50
Just look at reality: they don't have numbers to suppress yet. Hortensis Sep 2022 #61
bullshit Takket Sep 2022 #37
+1. Yet another brainsucking social media storm Hortensis Sep 2022 #64
Thank you! Treefrog Sep 2022 #69
Not true. Treefrog Sep 2022 #68
And you think that initial count is the final word? Really? Sky Jewels Oct 2022 #169
I was stating the reported deaths at the time... brooklynite Oct 2022 #171
Yes it is... spanone Sep 2022 #7
Will Desatan Maine Abu El Banat Sep 2022 #11
THIS malaise Sep 2022 #15
There were 7 deaths due to Michael. Phoenix61 Sep 2022 #19
I heard most typically are post storm compared to during the event MichMan Sep 2022 #21
Yes, sadly. Or in car accidents because all the traffic lights Phoenix61 Sep 2022 #22
Drowning will be the number one cause this time malaise Sep 2022 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Sep 2022 #31
There will be many missing . . . Richard D Sep 2022 #20
Yes. nt Phoenix61 Sep 2022 #23
Don't the authorities say something like "dead or missing." ?? Irish_Dem Sep 2022 #26
Yes, Richard D Sep 2022 #29
DeSantis will say,.... magicarpet Sep 2022 #38
If waves reached 16 feet high as feared GreenWave Sep 2022 #41
It seemed like months before we got the real death toll for Katrina, and bullwinkle428 Sep 2022 #45
And virtually all were the result of inadequate understanding Hortensis Sep 2022 #47
Cajun Navy guy on CNN just now Brenda Sep 2022 #52
I don't think most people really know. Renew Deal Sep 2022 #54
Ian had the four worst characterstics malaise Sep 2022 #56
Just passing along what someone in the field said. Brenda Sep 2022 #59
I heard him malaise Sep 2022 #55
Yep, drowned a lot, unfortunately. Brenda Sep 2022 #60
Someone just said reminds them of a tsunami. malaise Sep 2022 #62
Yeah, even long time Florida residents Brenda Sep 2022 #63
Wow, this is not true. BlackSkimmer Sep 2022 #88
Because people rely on official documentation. brooklynite Sep 2022 #57
That's for sure. Ask Lyndon B. Johnson about the Gulf of Tonkin. Kid Berwyn Sep 2022 #66
+100 Brenda Oct 2022 #110
I heard someone--FEMA Director or General Honore?--talking yesterday mnhtnbb Sep 2022 #65
The death toll is officially 12. Treefrog Sep 2022 #67
Tell that to your malaise Sep 2022 #70
You are blaming your blatantly wrong OP on Biden? Treefrog Oct 2022 #95
Apparently you don't have a clue what happened in Florida malaise Oct 2022 #96
I did not in any way attack you malaise. Treefrog Oct 2022 #98
I've been saying the toll would be in the thousands. ananda Oct 2022 #103
You are so obviously uninformed as to how deaths are Treefrog Oct 2022 #125
I'm also obviously correct. ananda Oct 2022 #130
Please post a link then. Treefrog Oct 2022 #134
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Oct 2022 #97
This thread is an embarrassment sarisataka Sep 2022 #71
Here - what is the meaning of substantial malaise Sep 2022 #72
"Substantial" in no way justifies just making up your own number FBaggins Sep 2022 #73
One of their guests said hundreds are dead malaise Sep 2022 #74
And "one of their guests" was the coroner counting the bodies? FBaggins Sep 2022 #76
To be fair, the sheriff of the worst-hit county also said "hundreds" yesterday muriel_volestrangler Sep 2022 #84
I'm not sure how that's "being fair" FBaggins Sep 2022 #87
It's "being fair" because, in this sub-thread alone, we have had muriel_volestrangler Sep 2022 #89
Nope - you're still not getting it FBaggins Sep 2022 #90
Pointing out the number is still speculation from those involved is also "being fair" muriel_volestrangler Sep 2022 #91
"Substantial" "could" sarisataka Sep 2022 #75
It's all fodder for entertainment Sympthsical Sep 2022 #77
This poster did this before. Treefrog Sep 2022 #79
I had another poster tell me this obamanut2012 Sep 2022 #81
Seriously -- I actually live in SOFL and know folks whose families are rescuing people there obamanut2012 Sep 2022 #80
You posted that this storm was not heading to Florida malaise Sep 2022 #83
And you posted that trump would be indicted on September 22. Treefrog Oct 2022 #114
ROFL malaise Oct 2022 #116
Why are you making stuff up? Treefrog Sep 2022 #78
I have never posted about loss of life in hurricanes malaise Sep 2022 #82
I hate that your sincere concern about the people whose lives may Hortensis Sep 2022 #92
That is not true. Treefrog Oct 2022 #100
What is your source? iemanja Sep 2022 #85
I'm paying attention malaise Oct 2022 #93
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Oct 2022 #94
None obamanut2012 Oct 2022 #99
At best. Treefrog Oct 2022 #101
UPDATE: "Dozens dead" brooklynite Oct 2022 #102
Still not hundreds? Treefrog Oct 2022 #118
We don't know that yet. Tommy Carcetti Sep 2022 #86
I fear the number of displaced, too. Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2022 #104
Sadly many will be retirees who chose warm climes and the poor malaise Oct 2022 #105
That always hits me hardest in war reports and "cleansings" Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2022 #106
That Spike Lee documentary was heart-brreaking malaise Oct 2022 #109
Yes, but most of the displaced can take of themselves. nt Hortensis Oct 2022 #126
Day 3 post Ian: Almost no reports of deaths. spanone Oct 2022 #107
Thank you. BlackSkimmer Oct 2022 #108
Even M$NBComcast is now cutting off malaise Oct 2022 #111
Hurricane Ian Death Toll at 56 in Florida Brenda Oct 2022 #112
Water on a duck's back sis malaise Oct 2022 #113
Good! Brenda Oct 2022 #115
So you're actually saying you don't care what the truth is? Treefrog Oct 2022 #120
LOL you know it makes no sense arguing with someone who malaise Oct 2022 #122
You're repeating yourself. Treefrog Oct 2022 #124
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Oct 2022 #123
Regarding the "displaced people," fortunately it's not nearly as bad Hortensis Oct 2022 #127
Thanks for this malaise Oct 2022 #132
Oh, hope not. We used to visit in the Myakka River area Hortensis Oct 2022 #135
Wash Post says 23 so far. If you have a link to the info on your post please share ZonkerHarris Oct 2022 #128
There is no link. Treefrog Oct 2022 #139
urging everyone who can to donate to the relief effort Skittles Oct 2022 #133
Thankfully we're still here ornotna Oct 2022 #136
So glad you and yours are OK malaise Oct 2022 #138
Thanks malaise ornotna Oct 2022 #141
this was sooo bad... it reminded me more of the Japanese Tsunami than a Hurricane. WarGamer Oct 2022 #137
Yes malaise Oct 2022 #140
47 count. So sad. Hope it doesn't rise XanaDUer2 Oct 2022 #143
The Florida Medical Examiners Commission confirmed 73 deaths as of Saturday afternoon bigtree Oct 2022 #145
73 and "hundred's" are not the same thing. Time will tell. nt EX500rider Oct 2022 #150
Right wing sympathizers. Kingofalldems Oct 2022 #151
78. Witt reports 12 noon nt XanaDUer2 Oct 2022 #144
The demolition crews are now going through debris malaise Oct 2022 #146
I pray no more XanaDUer2 Oct 2022 #147
Yes, it is now a search and recovery process Brenda Oct 2022 #148
I'd love to be wrong but we were warned on Day One malaise Oct 2022 #149
there are scores of homeless migrants that may not be accounted for in house to house searches bigtree Oct 2022 #152
Too sad malaise Oct 2022 #153
What do the evangelical "Christians" say about this? mwb970 Oct 2022 #154
They got that covered. Brenda Oct 2022 #155
malaise ... Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2022 #156
People on this OP were actually taking mcar Oct 2022 #157
We need to brace for some bad reports. Survivors will need a lot of help for quite a while. Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2022 #158
Yes. I'm guessing there will be many deaths mcar Oct 2022 #160
Trauma after hurricane... Brenda Oct 2022 #164
That's so sad mcar Oct 2022 #166
Yes it is. Brenda Oct 2022 #170
How sad malaise Oct 2022 #172
That is not what frightens me malaise Oct 2022 #161
Or three malaise Oct 2022 #159
Lordy mcar Oct 2022 #167
100 year storms are now almost yearly sky_masterson Oct 2022 #162
This one was a 500 year hurricane malaise Oct 2022 #163
So about every 5 years then sky_masterson Oct 2022 #165
We don:t know with climate change malaise Oct 2022 #168
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