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dutch777

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12. You can call it negotiation if you want, but yeah, pull back to the borders of 2013
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 11:05 PM
Oct 2022

I doubt Putin can go that far politically/internally so therein lies the rub, whether it is the Ukraine military that pushes that far on their own or Russians/Putin falling apart on their own, it will be problematic in any case. I really don't see a clean end to this, sadly. Much needless suffering and decades of rebuilding and everyone involved weakened and crippled. Not to mention the collateral damage to many beyond RU and Ukraine.

We don't negotiate with terrorists. SheltieLover Oct 2022 #1
Then why are we negotiating over Brittney Griner? former9thward Oct 2022 #13
Do you really believe pootin's invasion of Ukraine & Griner's imprisonment SheltieLover Oct 2022 #14
It was you who said "we don't negotiate with terrorists" former9thward Oct 2022 #16
We do not negotiate with terrorists. SheltieLover Oct 2022 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Jack the Greater Oct 2022 #20
Good question. nt BlackSkimmer Oct 2022 #22
Never negotiate with terrorists..secondly, putler just said he's willing to commit 10-20 million men PortTack Oct 2022 #2
You think he will find 10-20 million men willing to louis-t Oct 2022 #3
No not al all..that was one of my points. PortTack Oct 2022 #23
He wants Ukraine's neon, critical for chip mfg. SheltieLover Oct 2022 #17
The US has been negotiating with putin over Ilsa Oct 2022 #4
This will last for years. WarGamer Oct 2022 #5
Unconditional Retreat or Surrender. WheelWalker Oct 2022 #6
You can call it negotiation if you want, but yeah, pull back to the borders of 2013 dutch777 Oct 2022 #12
Or else... what? Jack the Greater Oct 2022 #21
That is not asking nearly enough of Russia HariSeldon Oct 2022 #7
Don't hold your breath. WarGamer Oct 2022 #8
How Many People Have Been Killed/Brutialized Since THe Start Of His War Of Choice Me. Oct 2022 #9
Nope PJMcK Oct 2022 #10
Sorry but there is the subject of war crimes, Putin and his military need Bev54 Oct 2022 #11
No discussion without Ukraine at the table. tirebiter Oct 2022 #15
This is correct. The war is between Russia and Ukraine, not the US and Russia. panader0 Oct 2022 #19
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