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H2O Man

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Wed Nov 23, 2022, 11:31 PM Nov 2022

A Rubin Quote [View all]

".... Because hate, like racism and color-prejudice, is not inherent, because nothing is inherent, but it has to be constantly cultivated in order to be brought into being -- for hatred demands existence! And he who hates must show his hatred in appropriate actions and behavior, and to a certain extent, he must become hate himself! And hatred, running amuck, is what you are witnessing today in America -- because America has become hate, itself, and therefore it is hated."
-- Rubin "Hurricane" Carter; letter to H2O Man; Tuesday, June 26, 1979; 9:45 a.m.


Last night I learned of another mass shooting, this one at a Walmart. The "official" reports by police were scant, and we were told more information would be presented this morning. The updates confirmed that it was yet another in the seemingly never ending out-of-control cycle of gross violence in America.

Unable to sleep, I found myself going back and forth between rooms, watching reports on the 24/7 news on television, and looking through several internet sites. This included coming to DU to check to see if there were any responses to an OP that I had posted on Monday, about mass shootings, with some information from the book "The Violence Project." The authors are intent upon educating the public about options for preventing mass shootings.

Hoping to engage in conversation, I was happily surprised to find there were two new responses. That faded quickly, however, when two new members made identical posts that I assume were from those who don't belong here on DU. Later in the morning, I was happy to see that both "people" had been shown the door.

The more I watched the news and read things on the internet, the more I realized I could benefit more from (re-) reading some of the series of letters I got from Rubin, dating from the times he was in solitary. Some of those letters were only about seven or eight pages long, and others were twenty to thirty. The above quote is from one of them.

Rubin did not think that a violent self-destruction was the only option that this country had. Rather, that it was the one that was almost certain if people did not make the conscious effort to change, and not return hatred for hatred. But that it was never too late to make the conscious change in direction.

Happy Thanksgiving to all of you & yours.
H2O Man

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A Rubin Quote [View all] H2O Man Nov 2022 OP
Good quote, H2O Man! calimary Nov 2022 #1
Thank you! H2O Man Nov 2022 #3
And you DO indeed have those. calimary Nov 2022 #26
Thank you for your contributions to DU 🙏 dweller Nov 2022 #2
Thanks! H2O Man Nov 2022 #6
Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours, my dear H20 Man! CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2022 #4
Thanks, Peggy! H2O Man Nov 2022 #8
It does take a conscious effort to change, and that effort is an everyday thing. You're never done. Solly Mack Nov 2022 #5
Never done. H2O Man Nov 2022 #10
People could look at it like learning something new each day. Solly Mack Nov 2022 #18
i think the things we other ppl over r taught, but i think the tendency to divide ppl mopinko Nov 2022 #7
Great point! H2O Man Nov 2022 #11
there's a discussion here in chi mopinko Nov 2022 #23
Great quote indeed, H2O Man nightwing1240 Nov 2022 #9
Thank you! H2O Man Nov 2022 #12
Love ya, H2O Man, and am sorry I have so little to say in this moment. Each new incident... Hekate Nov 2022 #13
Oh, thank you! H2O Man Nov 2022 #15
Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours, H20 Man! 2naSalit Nov 2022 #14
Thanks! H2O Man Nov 2022 #16
Thank you for your thoughtful posts Wild blueberry Nov 2022 #17
Thank you! H2O Man Nov 2022 #27
Great quote from Rubin Carter. sheshe2 Nov 2022 #19
While I was H2O Man Nov 2022 #30
PS ...... H2O Man Nov 2022 #31
I caught the movie a few months ago. sheshe2 Nov 2022 #41
"If you can do one, you can do the others, because fantacism and ignorance is forever busy AZLD4Candidate Nov 2022 #20
Very good! H2O Man Nov 2022 #32
And to you and yours grantcart Nov 2022 #21
Great movie! H2O Man Nov 2022 #33
My understanding is that it was most accurate about Lesra Martin grantcart Nov 2022 #34
That's true. H2O Man Nov 2022 #35
Hate "has to be constantly cultivated" Martin Eden Nov 2022 #22
Very interesting take! H2O Man Nov 2022 #36
Change or self destruct malaise Nov 2022 #24
That is the two choices! H2O Man Nov 2022 #37
Happy Thanksgiving to you, H2O Man spanone Nov 2022 #25
Thank you! H2O Man Nov 2022 #38
Hate is a heavy load to carry, just lighten up. (present company accepted) Prairie_Seagull Nov 2022 #28
Thanks! H2O Man Nov 2022 #39
Hated, anger, and rage have to be cultivated. Just A Box Of Rain Nov 2022 #29
Right. H2O Man Nov 2022 #40
MIssed THe Original Posting Me. Nov 2022 #42
Thanks! H2O Man Nov 2022 #43
Thank you for posting this quote LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2022 #44
Thanks! H2O Man Nov 2022 #45
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