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IroningBored

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38. Changing the Way Abortion is Discussed
Tue Jan 24, 2023, 03:18 PM
Jan 2023

I have been reading Democratic Underground for decades, but only recently became a member. This is my second post. I have sent a letter to my Democratic state legislators asking them to enact an Abortion Accountability Act. My comments included the following:
The way that abortion is now discussed is wrong. Many Republican legislatures, their voters, and supporters and conservative religious groups continue to ignore the obvious: There are two partners in an abortion. Those two partners are NOT a woman and her doctor. Those two partners are a man and a woman.
We need to include men in the discussion of abortion. Women don’t magically become pregnant. There is a man involved in every pregnancy: planned, unplanned, and unwanted. For every unplanned, unwanted, and life-threatening pregnancy that ends in abortion, there is a man involved.
The red state legislators’ antiabortion laws are labeling women and their doctors criminals. If abortion, used for any reason, is a crime, both partners in that crime, a man and a woman, must be held equally accountable.
Abortion Accountability Act
Change the way that abortion is discussed by introducing and enacting an Abortion Accountability Act to hold both partners in a pregnancy, a man and a woman, accountable.
Whereas a pregnancy involves both a man and a woman, any discussion about abortion must include both the man and the woman.
Abortion Accountability Acts must include these two provisions:
- If the two partners in a pregnancy, a man and a woman, agree to end the pregnancy, the full costs of an abortion must be equally shared.
- On the other hand, if the two partners, a man and a woman, agree to carry the pregnancy to full term, such shared expenses should include the costs of maternal and childcare and the costs of raising the child until the child reaches the age of adulthood.

If we could get a few blue state legislatures to enact such Abortion Accountability Acts, we could change the way that abortions are discussed. Please feel free to use any or all of my comments and write to your Democratic state legislators.

K&R...... Lovie777 Jan 2023 #1
I could not agree more. hlthe2b Jan 2023 #2
The issue has always been about CONTROL. ProudMNDemocrat Jan 2023 #3
+++ Diamond_Dog Jan 2023 #8
It's not just control, they don't wanna have to compete with us for jobs and pay raises Walleye Jan 2023 #12
AMEN!!! demigoddess Jan 2023 #47
Very true Rebl2 Jan 2023 #14
GOP leadership doesn't give a rat's behind about any their issues. Irish_Dem Jan 2023 #4
Of course it isn't. If it was really about the babies they'd care what happened to them Ocelot II Jan 2023 #5
That's what I think, too Deuxcents Jan 2023 #26
I am in agreement about the "reason ".. essaynnc Jan 2023 #6
This. rubbersole Jan 2023 #7
+1 2naSalit Jan 2023 #60
Man created God in his image to control woman. CrispyQ Jan 2023 #9
☝️Exactly Walleye Jan 2023 #13
It seems to me in Gensis Stargazer99 Jan 2023 #19
Yes.There are actually two conflicting creation stories Silver Gaia Jan 2023 #59
bingo. barbtries Jan 2023 #22
+1 2naSalit Jan 2023 #61
You're only half right - harumph Jan 2023 #10
re:"more about boosting white babies, preferably born into southern religious evangelical culture" thesquanderer Jan 2023 #17
Exactly, more needing jobs to survive-cheaper labor Stargazer99 Jan 2023 #20
and THAT is one of the main goals - cheap and abundant labor rurallib Jan 2023 #32
I agree about boosting more white babies - but.... dem in texas Jan 2023 #54
Bingo! Marcuse Jan 2023 #55
This is EXACTLY what it's all about. Jerry Falwell and others.... A HERETIC I AM Jan 2023 #56
They are all reactionaries. raging moderate Jan 2023 #11
It's about remaking society so that women are just baby making machines. lark Jan 2023 #15
It is, and always has been, about control. About their "property". How dare women niyad Jan 2023 #16
I think it's a mix. I think there are some for whom it genuinely is about saving babies, too. n/t thesquanderer Jan 2023 #18
then they better put their money where their mouth is Stargazer99 Jan 2023 #21
For the real leaders of the anti-abortion movement saving babies is very low on the list rurallib Jan 2023 #33
Yes, more the followers than leaders.Prob the only leader who's in it for saving babies is the Pope. thesquanderer Jan 2023 #36
If it were about saving babies randr Jan 2023 #23
If you don't mind, I think the real reason is even beyond that. Pobeka Jan 2023 #24
It's about gettin votes from people who think it's about saving babies. Iggo Jan 2023 #25
Talibananafication. moondust Jan 2023 #27
statement is very true, republianmushroom Jan 2023 #28
You are spot on! geardaddy Jan 2023 #29
Yep... Pregnancy Was Punishment For Being A "Loose" Woman GGoss Jan 2023 #30
. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2023 #31
THIS ... KPN Jan 2023 #34
Nailed it maxrandb Jan 2023 #35
Women and men have similar overall views on abortion. BlueCheeseAgain Jan 2023 #37
Changing the Way Abortion is Discussed IroningBored Jan 2023 #38
A lot of harm implied in your provisions. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2023 #42
Totally agree. nt Atticus Jan 2023 #44
I wouldn't disagree modrepub Jan 2023 #39
The best sign I've seen read "If you cut off my reproductive choices, can I cut off yours?" OMGWTF Jan 2023 #40
I think the answer is "mixed" Dirty Socialist Jan 2023 #41
There are plenty of useful idiots protesting outside of clinics who believe that their presence on WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2023 #43
I think it's about donation$ /nt IcyPeas Jan 2023 #45
"Pro-life" was always a monstrous lie Hekate Jan 2023 #46
The ultra-wealthy one-per-centers aren't very religious FakeNoose Jan 2023 #48
The real "big lie" housecat Jan 2023 #49
Half true. dupagelib Jan 2023 #50
How to reduce abortions Lem1951 Jan 2023 #51
This message was self-deleted by its author Nululu Jan 2023 #52
Slavery and killing women Nululu Jan 2023 #53
I remember that slogan. calimary Jan 2023 #57
The bare bones bottom line: MOMFUDSKI Jan 2023 #58
I'm pretty busy trying to think up a new way.... jaxexpat Jan 2023 #62
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