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Kid Berwyn

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65. Yeah, who knows? Here's why he matters...
Wed Mar 15, 2023, 01:39 PM
Mar 2023
Mass Media ignoring 'RFK Believed in Conspiracy' shows corrupt nature of America's Press



Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and his sister Rory Kennedy told Charlie Rose that their father, the Attorney General of the United States, Robert F. Kennedy, believed there was a conspiracy behind the death of his brother, President John F. Kennedy. For the first time in almost 50 years, members of the slain president's family were about their father's thoughts about the assassination.

(ARCHIVE) https://web.archive.org/web/20130114120047/https://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57563645/rfk-jr-dad-believed-warren-commission-shoddy/

The story made news, as it were, for a day or two -- it was on page 8 here in Detroit (try finding it using The Free Press or Detroit News web site search engines) -- and apart from several threads on DU, that's about it as coverage goes. The Charlie Rose interview was part of a program put together by the media and good people in Dallas to celebrate JFK's life.

What bothers me about the media coverage is the constant attack, not on the government's lousy investigation of the assassination and its attendant cover-up, but, rather, the attack on anyone who brings up the subject of conspiracy in the death of the president, even when it's children of attorney general who also was the brother of the slain president.

Check out this condescending piece of opinion from the Dallas Observer:



Not Even Charlie Rose Could Rein in RFK Jr. in Dallas Last Night. Also: Conspiracy Theories!

By Betsy Lewis Sat., Jan. 12 2013 at 11:01 AM

It got weird when he went into a historical lecture about his father's investigation into the JFK assassination. He was speaking about it as if he had been part of it, then cited a book called The Unspeakable by Jim Douglas (sic - actually "JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why It Matters" by James Douglass) as being the best book on the subject, then kept referencing things from the book. He was losing the audience, so he burst out, "My father believed that the Warren Report was a shoddy piece of craftsmanship," to the delighted applause of the mostly Baby Boomer audience.

Whenever Charlie Rose would ask about the family, RFK Jr. would evade the question until he heard either delighted Boomer applause or delighted Boomer laughter. One of his responses to a family question was an unrelated story about World War II. A lady behind me who must have recently Netflixed The Iron Lady kept saying, "Here here!" for the benefit of us unfortunate people around her.
Some of the strangest RFK Jr. outbursts with the biggest applause were:

"We're becoming a national security state!" (applause, "Here here!" ) .

"Corporations want profits!" (applause, "Here here!" ) .

"Corporations are great things, but we'd be nuts to let them run our government!" (applause, "Here here!" ) .

"Nationalism in Africa! The end of colonialism!"

At this point, I don't think anyone knew what the hell he was talking about. It was something about the Kennedy family airlifting President Obama's father out of Kenya to begin a new life in America.

RFK Jr.: "Yes."

CONTINUED...

(OLD) http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/mixmaster/2013/01/charlie_rose_live_the_kennedy.php

(ARCHIVED) https://web.archive.org/web/20130115215556/https://blogs.dallasobserver.com/mixmaster/2013/01/charlie_rose_live_the_kennedy.php



Me, I don't believe any of that stuff was "out there." Why writer Betsy Lewis chooses to believe what the media tell her is true I'll guess lies in allegiance to a pay check.

Likewise for the lack of coverage given the story in the national media, where the same few corporations that swore up and down there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, both in 1990 and 2002, now want no part of "conspiracy talk" during the 50th anniversary observance. So far, as far as I'm aware, the Charlie Rose program has not aired.

What's more telling is what didn't get noted in the nation's corrupt mass media at all: The fact that Attorney General and later Senator Robert F. Kennedy also was assassinated. Some think that was a coincidence, because the mass media told them so. One thing's for certain, the questions still surrounding the deaths of two liberal icons doesn't get discussed at all today in our supposedly "free press."

Above is a 2013 OP from DU:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10022416498

The original links above now go to the Internet Archive Waybac.

BWTM: Facts curiously missing from American history and any mention of the Warren Commission in corporate media.

Two WC members helped bring NAZIs into mainstream USA.



Two of its members were directly responsible for the rise of post-war fascism. Allen Dulles, as a top official of the OSS and CIA, incorporated NAZI war criminals into the CIA from its founding. John McCloy, as High Commissioner for Germany, allowed Klaus Barbie, Alfred Krupp, eight members of his board, and who-knows-who-else to escape justice. Of course, Dulles and McCloy also were barons of Wall Street and Beltway Insiders, at the heart of the military industrial complex. We all can see what that means for the United States today.

Background:

The American who let the Nazis rebuild Germany

https://thecritic.co.uk/issues/november-2021/the-american-who-let-the-nazis-rebuild-germany/

CIA and NAZI War Criminals

https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB146/index.htm

So, that’s why I stand with Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. and not the CIA or some random flock of smear artists on the Internet.
Of what? nt Carlitos Brigante Mar 2023 #1
I saw what you did there. area51 Mar 2023 #69
. Carlitos Brigante Mar 2023 #71
Oh hell no. Archae Mar 2023 #2
Gee. Which party? dchill Mar 2023 #3
Democratic of course womanofthehills Mar 2023 #34
Fine. We'll see how long he lasts in the primaries. dchill Mar 2023 #36
He's not indicating that on his website, and all his support is coming from Trumpers so far. pnwmom Mar 2023 #82
Trumpers on Twitter say they will switch to vote in Dem primary womanofthehills Mar 2023 #87
It's NOT that they're not hot on Trump anymore. It's the opposite. pnwmom Mar 2023 #88
TY for Explaining That!! nt Cha Mar 2023 #93
Ghads, that's dissgusting! electric_blue68 Mar 2023 #107
Jesus, "Jr" said all that??? DemocraticPatriot Mar 2023 #114
He did indeed. You can read about it here. pnwmom Mar 2023 #116
I believe you. I'd rather not DemocraticPatriot Mar 2023 #118
If he runs now, he won't be a Democrat DemocraticPatriot Mar 2023 #113
Oh brother. FalloutShelter Mar 2023 #4
Stochastic murderer says what? RockRaven Mar 2023 #5
No. Nt Baked Potato Mar 2023 #6
Please no. pandr32 Mar 2023 #7
NO sheshe2 Mar 2023 #8
Help me decide if I should ask Becky Cordon, in 8th grade home room, to the dance this Friday . . . Journeyman Mar 2023 #9
LOL! Bev54 Mar 2023 #10
Ugh. greatauntoftriplets Mar 2023 #11
No thanks. roamer65 Mar 2023 #12
No, just no. Those of us who remember your father and uncle would never vote for you. (I don't LoisB Mar 2023 #13
I will go the next step and say bottomofthehill Mar 2023 #25
That is so true. Thank you for saying it. LoisB Mar 2023 #27
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2023 #43
Because he is an antivax covidiot, a disgrace to his family name. SheltieLover Mar 2023 #46
The anti-vaxxer? Oh no. Laffy Kat Mar 2023 #14
Help him decide by texting Bobby at (202) 932-7525. Just A Box Of Rain Mar 2023 #15
Nina Turner has her candidate..... brooklynite Mar 2023 #16
"your vaccine advocacy" LudwigPastorius Mar 2023 #20
Just another reason to dislike both of them. bottomofthehill Mar 2023 #26
I am from Ohio and I despise Nina. She is no longer a Democrat either...Peoples party. Demsrule86 Mar 2023 #45
Ah, so the truth emerged? Another tulsi turd. SheltieLover Mar 2023 #48
Hi Sheltie! I saw you PM'd me. but I am just feeling well enough to answer now... Demsrule86 Mar 2023 #56
So happy to see you back in action here! SheltieLover Mar 2023 #57
Absolutely agree! SheltieLover Mar 2023 #47
He wouldn't be able to pardon Sirhan Sirhan, JenniferJuniper Mar 2023 #17
Why in hell would he want whathehell Mar 2023 #21
He wants him released. JenniferJuniper Mar 2023 #22
Any idea why? whathehell Mar 2023 #23
He thinks he's innocent. JenniferJuniper Mar 2023 #24
Oh well.. whathehell Mar 2023 #61
Maybe not as much, but it's out there. It could have been seen as "the last straw" at that ... electric_blue68 Mar 2023 #106
RKJ recently said that he believes that the CIA killed both his father & Pres Kennedy womanofthehills Mar 2023 #38
Interesting.. whathehell Mar 2023 #58
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2023 #60
What a great little story! electric_blue68 Mar 2023 #108
As what? A Democrat? An Independent, Green or Democratic Adjacent liberal party? haele Mar 2023 #18
As a Democrat womanofthehills Mar 2023 #35
He is no Democrat. He is anti-vaxer who sided with the GOP. Demsrule86 Mar 2023 #44
Hell no! SheltieLover Mar 2023 #49
And I'm considering a run to start at 1B for the Yankees. Bleacher Creature Mar 2023 #19
Check. Lunatic is the right word for him. brush Mar 2023 #31
Do your family a favor and don't run. OAITW r.2.0 Mar 2023 #28
Which party? LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2023 #29
What The Hell Is He Thinking? DET Mar 2023 #30
Yep, just a waste of time of anyone invloved. brush Mar 2023 #32
R's might cross party lines just to hurt Biden. nt pnwmom Mar 2023 #40
Uh, No. Shame he went off the rails. electric_blue68 Mar 2023 #33
Agree, somewhere he went off the rails into CT land Deminpenn Mar 2023 #50
Is he? Well, that's good to know. electric_blue68 Mar 2023 #52
He's an environment lawyer Deminpenn Mar 2023 #53
He's one of our top environmental lawyers womanofthehills Mar 2023 #73
Indeed I don't think so and when you side with the GOP, you have no business trying to Demsrule86 Mar 2023 #99
I think of the Greens who claim to be all concerned with the environment but IMHO Demsrule86 Mar 2023 #100
He either founded co-founded, or was very early involved with The River Keepers. I remember that. electric_blue68 Mar 2023 #109
No Meowmee Mar 2023 #37
I hear Tulsi is looking to be his VP lapfog_1 Mar 2023 #39
Mike Lindell would be more his speed Generic Brad Mar 2023 #67
And I am considering never, ever voting for him. Tommy Carcetti Mar 2023 #41
Robert, I supported Bobby Kennedy. I knew Bobby Kennedy. Bobby Kennedy was a friend of ours... GGoss Mar 2023 #42
If his dad was AG today would the orange one be in prison by now? nt Hotler Mar 2023 #51
Super! Maybe he and Williamson can collaborate on Ivermectin-scented candles! hatrack Mar 2023 #54
Lol Meowmee Mar 2023 #104
JFK is turning over in his grave. Irish_Dem Mar 2023 #55
And his siblings are wishing he'd just shut up. nt pnwmom Mar 2023 #94
Yep. Disgrace to the Kennedy name. Irish_Dem Mar 2023 #96
similar reaction to Manchin... jcgoldie Mar 2023 #59
I really don't know much about RFK Jr except that he has been against vaccines liberal_mama Mar 2023 #62
He's one of American's top environmental lawyers womanofthehills Mar 2023 #74
Thank you! I didn't know that. liberal_mama Mar 2023 #81
Did you know he compared our vaccine mandates to Hitler's Germany, pnwmom Mar 2023 #85
He compared Biden and vaccines to Hitler. He said at least Anne Frank pnwmom Mar 2023 #83
He's a good man. Kid Berwyn Mar 2023 #63
Anti vaxer? Sirhan is innocent? CIA killed Jack? nt LAS14 Mar 2023 #64
Yeah, who knows? Here's why he matters... Kid Berwyn Mar 2023 #65
I can't stand with anyone who compares the Biden administrations vaccine mandate to Hitler's Germany pnwmom Mar 2023 #90
I bookmarked your '13 thread on this. I want to read it in one day, too late this evening and too .. electric_blue68 Mar 2023 #115
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2023 #75
No, he is an ant-vaxer who sides with the GOP often. Demsrule86 Mar 2023 #72
He called Scalia a NAZI in 2008. Kid Berwyn Mar 2023 #78
So what? He also has compared the Biden administration to Nazi Germany. pnwmom Mar 2023 #91
Really did he now...well he called Biden a Nazi this year...does not move me at all. He is an Demsrule86 Mar 2023 #103
I remember reading something about a book Scalia wrote in Italian* that included positives on... electric_blue68 Mar 2023 #110
He's an anti-science crackpot. Sky Jewels Mar 2023 #77
No, RFK, Jr. is a law professor. Kid Berwyn Mar 2023 #79
He may be a law professor, but he's also a nutter, and his campaign will be dead in the water. Sky Jewels Mar 2023 #80
He is also a member of the largest personal injury law firm in the US womanofthehills Mar 2023 #89
SO WHAT? If he stuck to that, fine. But he's been busy comparing Biden to Hitler, pnwmom Mar 2023 #95
No person, and especially politician, is all good nor all bad. Sky Jewels Mar 2023 #105
There are physicians who are crackpots, there are professors in all subjects pnwmom Mar 2023 #92
He's compared Biden to Hitler, so he'll never be the nominee. pnwmom Mar 2023 #84
He is not...and the he will never win the nomination after what he has done... Demsrule86 Mar 2023 #101
Oh, hell no! ShazzieB Mar 2023 #66
Nope Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2023 #68
He is an irrelevant crackpot, with a famous name. tritsofme Mar 2023 #70
Lots of luck with that, Bobby. Sky Jewels Mar 2023 #76
Nope... BlueIdaho Mar 2023 #86
He's the moron who believed, and still seems to believe, that vaccines causes autism NickB79 Mar 2023 #97
"And yet his son is a fucking dunce." nt Tommy Carcetti Mar 2023 #98
Just in.. A report on another Anti-Vaxer.. Cha Mar 2023 #102
No! Owl Mar 2023 #111
Dear RFK Jr. : DemocraticPatriot Mar 2023 #112
We were schoolmates as kids DFW Mar 2023 #117
I sent him a text saying "NO" in effect, but it was longer than that... DemocraticPatriot Mar 2023 #119
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