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Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:41 PM

OLDMDDEM (1,414 posts)

2. You are correct

Many people have left them for dead, but they are still a force to reckon with. They are now going to be buying up discounted mortgages in New York(?) and turn around and forgive the loan. What a great idea.

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Let's Not Forget OWS... [View all]	WiffenPoof	Nov 2012	OP
I had to start ignoring Occupy stuff due to all the "OBAMA IS JUST AS BAD YOU FOOLS!"	redqueen	Nov 2012	#1
Are you suggesting that OWS was libertarian? That doesnt make sense. nm	rhett o rick	Nov 2012	#4
It didn't happen.	Luminous Animal	Nov 2012	#8
I cant imagine libertarians protesting Wall Street. I just find it sad that some Democrats	rhett o rick	Nov 2012	#13
Libertarians	PETRUS	Nov 2012	#28
Yes, I think they wanted the attention. Cant see them wanting more Wall Street regulations. nm	rhett o rick	Nov 2012	#75
No, but down here they seemed to be overrun with those types.	redqueen	Nov 2012	#16
I think that happened in certain cities.	PETRUS	Nov 2012	#31
Left-libertarian. But I notice everyone on this thread is talking about us in the past tense.	Leopolds Ghost	Nov 2012	#55
That is hilarious	nadinbrzezinski	Nov 2012	#9
Really? What were you reading that gave you that incorrect perception? OWS	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#24
This kind of disinformation is why I don't recommend DU to anyone anymore...	Luminous Animal	Nov 2012	#34
Yes, it's very embarrassing, I agree.	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#49
A lot of people rely on MSM and tv news here.	mattclearing	Nov 2012	#109
There's been a vocal (very) few pushing the	LadyHawkAZ	Nov 2012	#48
Yes, but the written declaration of what OWS stands for makes it clear that they	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#52
I wrote it off as part of the same disinformation campaign	LadyHawkAZ	Nov 2012	#53
I agree. What do you think of Democrats that help spread this disinformation?	rhett o rick	Nov 2012	#76
Simple...it is a clear and present threat to the system	nadinbrzezinski	Nov 2012	#82
"...young people in scruffy beards..."	WorseBeforeBetter	Nov 2012	#180
Thank you. You can say it so much better than I. I completely agree. nm	rhett o rick	Nov 2012	#59
OWS is strictly non-partisan and supports no candidate or party.	Fire Walk With Me	Nov 2012	#47
What a ridiculous and baseless slur on a social justice movement that changed	coalition_unwilling	Nov 2012	#81
Once the saane people stopped going to GAs, OWS was nothing but the crazy people, and no they didn't	roseBudd	Nov 2012	#160
So the members of the Central Committee of the DEMOCRATIC PARTY	nadinbrzezinski	Nov 2012	#166
You are correct	OLDMDDEM	Nov 2012	#2
They were never dead they were busy doing things to benefit people. They were only dead	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#26
They are a growing movement still in its infancy	LeftInTX	Nov 2012	#32
I'm so glad	OLDMDDEM	Nov 2012	#206
bingo.... before OWS nobody was talking about income inequality!!	oldhippydude	Nov 2012	#3
Yeah.	Summer Hathaway	Nov 2012	#5
Nope. Never, ever.	HappyMe	Nov 2012	#6
What's your beef with "no political affiliation"...	Luminous Animal	Nov 2012	#29
Don't forget, not every one respects MLK. But thanks for the post, OWS has huge respect	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#50
This is embarrasing	nadinbrzezinski	Nov 2012	#11
Well, Nadin ...	Summer Hathaway	Nov 2012	#15
Wow.	rhett o rick	Nov 2012	#25
We've had this discussion before, Rhett	Summer Hathaway	Nov 2012	#33
OWS didn't start the debate	Downtown Hound	Nov 2012	#42
Well, if we're going to offer anecdotal evidence	Summer Hathaway	Nov 2012	#56
If you go back through the archives here, to say 2008, you will posts announcing how	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#106
And Kamela Harris in CA credited them for the	nadinbrzezinski	Nov 2012	#107
You arent fooling anyone. nm	rhett o rick	Nov 2012	#60
Yep. As transparent as the air on a crystal clear desert morning.	Zorra	Nov 2012	#198
You have an excellent imagination	nadinbrzezinski	Nov 2012	#38
When it comes to having an imagination, Nadin	Summer Hathaway	Nov 2012	#61
Summer, this isn't achieving anything.	sibelian	Nov 2012	#65
I would wholeheartedly agree with you, sibelian	Summer Hathaway	Nov 2012	#68
That's a interesting point...	sibelian	Nov 2012	#72
Yup, that is why I see them for they are	nadinbrzezinski	Nov 2012	#79
How about we credit them with making it more mainstream, then?	sibelian	Nov 2012	#63
I give OWS all credit due	Summer Hathaway	Nov 2012	#70
I can understand the RightWingers disparaging OWS, but I dont understand	rhett o rick	Nov 2012	#12
+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! - K & R !!!	WillyT	Nov 2012	#14
And I don't understand	Summer Hathaway	Nov 2012	#17
So are you saying that you support OWS? nm	rhett o rick	Nov 2012	#19
They Brought That Attention...To Critical Mass !!!	WillyT	Nov 2012	#20
Do you honestly believe	Summer Hathaway	Nov 2012	#27
Believe Me... I'm Not The One Who Should Be Worried About Looking Ridiculous...	WillyT	Nov 2012	#35
Again you go on the assumption	Summer Hathaway	Nov 2012	#39
No... What I'm Assuming... Is That Many Voters Thought That That Was Just The Way It Is...	WillyT	Nov 2012	#41
Sorry, WillyT	Summer Hathaway	Nov 2012	#43
they made it socially acceptable to discuss it openly.	sibelian	Nov 2012	#64
Sorry, but the topic	Summer Hathaway	Nov 2012	#69
Well, my experience doesn't bear that out.	sibelian	Nov 2012	#73
Where was it discussed? On the media? Do you have links to all this discussion	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#113
As always, you're right, sabrina	Summer Hathaway	Nov 2012	#135
Yes people did discuss it. And no one, including OWS ever said otherwise. You are	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#186
Once again you try to change the argument. No one is claiming that OWS was the first	rhett o rick	Nov 2012	#117
Yet again	Summer Hathaway	Nov 2012	#129
For someone who is indifferent you have quite a fixation, really	nadinbrzezinski	Nov 2012	#143
I am indifferent to OWS	Summer Hathaway	Nov 2012	#145
And you have a good imagination	nadinbrzezinski	Nov 2012	#148
Nadin	Summer Hathaway	Nov 2012	#161
What makes no sense to you?	nadinbrzezinski	Nov 2012	#164
If you were "indifferent" you wouldnt post so many anti-OWS posts.	rhett o rick	Nov 2012	#178
I admit I often allow myself	Summer Hathaway	Nov 2012	#179
Be careful painting with too broad a brush. All protests attract anarchists, communists,	rhett o rick	Nov 2012	#182
Nobody speaks for OWS. That's the point.	randome	Nov 2012	#183
I dont agree with your logic. nm	rhett o rick	Nov 2012	#184
Actually, that claim is complete bullshit.	woo me with science	Nov 2012	#201
please stop apologizing for the 1%	argiel1234	Nov 2012	#140
My answer is a simple one	Summer Hathaway	Nov 2012	#144
by pissing and shitting on everyone on this thread	argiel1234	Nov 2012	#147
Thanks for proving my point	Summer Hathaway	Nov 2012	#149
you have questioned and shit on ever post in this thread	argiel1234	Nov 2012	#151
Again, I invite you	Summer Hathaway	Nov 2012	#157
And, really? Capitalism lost?	randome	Nov 2012	#150
sorry but its NOt ok to profit off of people anymore	argiel1234	Nov 2012	#155
The truth, however, is that hundreds of millions of people are quite content with Capitalism.	randome	Nov 2012	#158
hundreds of millions dont live under violent capitalism	argiel1234	Nov 2012	#162
"Mitt and Capitalism lost"	Chathamization	Nov 2012	#167
It seems to me that the OP is referring to the election cycle and the campaigners...	Luminous Animal	Nov 2012	#23
But that's my point, LA	Summer Hathaway	Nov 2012	#37
So where are all these people you are talking about? What did they accomplish? Did	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#110
Often, it's a Third Way thing. The Third Way values profit over people, and is trying to move the	Zorra	Nov 2012	#30
I knew it wouldn't be long	Summer Hathaway	Nov 2012	#40
The Third Way is not a label. They exist, they have a website. They have an idealogy and	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#112
It's a "label" that has been affixed	Summer Hathaway	Nov 2012	#133
Are you really saying that Third Way, who are very proud of their role in the Dem Party	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#138
Good grief, sabrina	Summer Hathaway	Nov 2012	#141
'Idols' 'pedestals'	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#187
Thank you for your condescending and arrogant response	Summer Hathaway	Nov 2012	#190
'Rapturous idolization of BBI', 'sacred cows, Greenwald, Assange and Occupy'	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#191
Your lack of self-awareness	Summer Hathaway	Nov 2012	#192
Seriously, I'm flattered you remember our first encounter, I did not frankly. I knew	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#204
Democrats don't do the same Rhett so you are correct.	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#108
David Wolff in his book	Shankapotomus	Nov 2012	#18
Who was talking about those things before Sept 2011?	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#44
Of course, sabrina	Summer Hathaway	Nov 2012	#54
Occupy's message is more relevent now than ever.	Joe Shlabotnik	Nov 2012	#7
They helped frame the issues so that the common voter	Rex	Nov 2012	#10
Yes, because no one would have realized	Summer Hathaway	Nov 2012	#21
Yes... I think the "common voter" is pretty damned stupid, or has been living under a rock.	WillyT	Nov 2012	#22
Yep. Look what the Tea Party did.....	LeftInTX	Nov 2012	#36
OWS could have been a response	Summer Hathaway	Nov 2012	#51
Voting is not very effective in itself. I'm sorry you don't understand but civil rights movement etc	Leopolds Ghost	Nov 2012	#57
Do you not think	Summer Hathaway	Nov 2012	#67
I don't think it's healthy for civil rights movement to be perceived as a monolithic voting block	Leopolds Ghost	Nov 2012	#74
OWS never changed its goals. .	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#114
Well, helping out Hurricane Sandy victims and buying up debt...	randome	Nov 2012	#115
How exactly is that changing goals? That is what they have always done from the beginning.	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#118
Neither one of us seems to 'get' the other.	randome	Nov 2012	#119
They are doing nothing they have not been doing from the beginning. The sad thing is	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#123
They have?	nadinbrzezinski	Nov 2012	#116
Nadin	Summer Hathaway	Nov 2012	#137
What? You claim goals were changed	nadinbrzezinski	Nov 2012	#146
They never presented themselves as apolitical. They presented themselves as nonpartisan &	Luminous Animal	Nov 2012	#58
I was responding to	Summer Hathaway	Nov 2012	#62
And that is the problem	nadinbrzezinski	Nov 2012	#80
With all due respect, Nadin	Summer Hathaway	Nov 2012	#83
I am not the one denying a certain universe of facts	nadinbrzezinski	Nov 2012	#84
Given how often you	Summer Hathaway	Nov 2012	#85
What facts have I owned?	nadinbrzezinski	Nov 2012	#87
The "facts" you have owned	Summer Hathaway	Nov 2012	#89
Well, I swear from your posts	nadinbrzezinski	Nov 2012	#90
Funny to get a lecture on science	Summer Hathaway	Nov 2012	#93
Funny since the video has since emerged	nadinbrzezinski	Nov 2012	#94
Finally there is video?!	zappaman	Nov 2012	#96
Seriously, Nadin	Summer Hathaway	Nov 2012	#97
But you keep making shit up	nadinbrzezinski	Nov 2012	#98
We know PLENTY about you based on how very nasty you are just in this thread.	kestrel91316	Nov 2012	#165
The only people using the word 'hate' is you and a few others with you.	randome	Nov 2012	#168
Links, please?	Summer Hathaway	Nov 2012	#170
So why are you still hanging around?	nadinbrzezinski	Nov 2012	#172
At your own request	Summer Hathaway	Nov 2012	#173
Polly, do you want a cracker?	nadinbrzezinski	Nov 2012	#174
Yes, Nadin, I agree	Summer Hathaway	Nov 2012	#175
Well, go on mrs Hathaway.	nadinbrzezinski	Nov 2012	#176
You are far from indifferent to OWS. We have addressed this before. You are as indifferent	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#111
Not obvious to me	Chathamization	Nov 2012	#121
It is a LOOOONNNGGG history	nadinbrzezinski	Nov 2012	#122
Lol, welcome to DU. Summer despises OWS and always has. She has a right to do so.	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#124
I was going to say you were right.	randome	Nov 2012	#125
Wow How Amazing For You To Just Land In This Thread	HangOnKids	Nov 2012	#132
Cheerleading?	Chathamization	Nov 2012	#136
OWS had a role	Chathamization	Nov 2012	#86
That will be a discussion held in academic circles	nadinbrzezinski	Nov 2012	#88
Perhaps	Chathamization	Nov 2012	#91
Talking academic	nadinbrzezinski	Nov 2012	#92
Academic is fine	Chathamization	Nov 2012	#95
Yup, agreed	nadinbrzezinski	Nov 2012	#99
We'll see what happens	Chathamization	Nov 2012	#102
They did here as well	nadinbrzezinski	Nov 2012	#103
The media says the opposite about OWS. In fact they ignored it for two weeks and	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#120
From what I remember	Chathamization	Nov 2012	#128
Actually it doesn't matter what the media does or does not do. But in the beginning they were	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#134
There was coverage in the first few days	Chathamization	Nov 2012	#142
Yeah, but as you pointed out	nadinbrzezinski	Nov 2012	#154
The Iraq war protests tended to be larger	Chathamization	Nov 2012	#159
My local paper is a good example	nadinbrzezinski	Nov 2012	#163
Hopefully	Chathamization	Nov 2012	#169
Right now it is really messy	nadinbrzezinski	Nov 2012	#171
I don't think I explained this very well. So, let me try again.	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#185
A couple things	Chathamization	Nov 2012	#188
Actually it was the other way around. I follow a lot of the celebrities who showed up	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#193
Some did	Chathamization	Nov 2012	#195
The anti war protests lasted for a few hours on one day at a time. There are no numbers available	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#197
Those that were camping	Chathamization	Nov 2012	#199
Lol, of course they weren't that many. Although they were way more than anyone ever	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#203
Excellent post, thank you!	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#196
Exactly!	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#46
It will be nice to get back to discussing and working to change these issues:	Fire Walk With Me	Nov 2012	#45
That's a great list of things that need to be changed	Summer Hathaway	Nov 2012	#71
OWS is at least resisting - they are not in a position of power	TBF	Nov 2012	#78
Better question, how are elected officials changing them?	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#126
Answering a question	Summer Hathaway	Nov 2012	#131
OWS exists because nothing has been done about these issues you say everyone knew	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#139
Yes, I think OWS was a great deal more effective than most give it credit for.	sibelian	Nov 2012	#66
At the very least Occupy has folks actually talking about class -	TBF	Nov 2012	#77
As The Original Poster...	WiffenPoof	Nov 2012	#100
OWS is a lightning rod for debate.	randome	Nov 2012	#101
Thanks...	WiffenPoof	Nov 2012	#104
It isn't, only to those who have always opposed it.	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#130
Occupy is Helping with Hurricane Sandy Relieve at the Moment	AndyTiedye	Nov 2012	#105
kick	upi402	Nov 2012	#127
Not a chance	99th_Monkey	Nov 2012	#152
This message was self-deleted by its author	99th_Monkey	Nov 2012	#153
OccupyRaleigh is still active...	WorseBeforeBetter	Nov 2012	#156
Most don't	Chathamization	Nov 2012	#177
"stared blankly"	WorseBeforeBetter	Nov 2012	#181
yeah , don't forget	4 t 4	Nov 2012	#194
Huh, I wasn't aware of the NMH and Sonic Youth connection to OWS.	WorseBeforeBetter	Nov 2012	#205
...	Fire Walk With Me	Nov 2012	#189
Forgotten.	RiffRandell	Nov 2012	#200
Huge K&R	woo me with science	Nov 2012	#202

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