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18. :) Gee, that statement sounds like religious-level conviction.
Tue Apr 18, 2023, 06:55 PM
Apr 2023

Lacking facts to base such an attitude on, how could it be other than faith based?

I live in the real world with real people, not an ideological abstract.

Btw, I like to think I've also recreated in bear country, either or both kids -- we spent so much time in the wilderness, but will never know.

I'd love having you live in my neighborhood and be happy to drop by on my walks for coffee and a chat. (I'd be a little more restrained in what I said to protect a valued relationship.) But the day you said our other friend missing from our chat had had no right to try to use lethal force to protect herself from the bear that attacked and killed her? I'd have a problem.

And, yes, of course I'm assuming you wouldn't really react like that; but you did say it. I'm no ideologue -- everything has to work in the real world for most people, and bears, has to be workable for most or I won't support it.

To this day, I'm flabbergasted by those who imagined they had a right to choose, nearly 2 years ago now, to keep the minimum wage OTHER, REAL people live on at $7.25 because $12 wasn't the $15 they wanted. Was that even real to them? I think of those still trying to live on less often.

Our thoughts come closer together when I change the bear situation to that and think, "Where do they get off thinking that they deserve to be exempt?" But also worse, playing political "god" with the lives of others?

"Why kill a bear for being a bear?" Effete Snob Apr 2023 #1
so what if they lose their fear of humans? Coventina Apr 2023 #2
Fuck scientists Effete Snob Apr 2023 #3
No, I said fuck humans, by which I mean human arrogance Coventina Apr 2023 #4
I'm sorry Effete Snob Apr 2023 #6
Cheers, then. Coventina Apr 2023 #7
Gosh that's not my experience with biologists and game wardens at all. MontanaMama Apr 2023 #25
Interesting Zeitghost Apr 2023 #17
All animals. n/t Coventina Apr 2023 #19
So an bug's life is then Zeitghost Apr 2023 #20
Depends on the bug. Coventina Apr 2023 #22
It would seem to me that one bug would not be worth more than another Zeitghost Apr 2023 #23
I am not in favor of gunning down children Coventina Apr 2023 #27
I'll state first that I would rather the bear not ... Whiskeytide Apr 2023 #30
Well, I don't own any firearms, and never will. Coventina Apr 2023 #31
Living with bears in my neighborhood MontanaMama Apr 2023 #5
Another article stated it was a female bear with three cubs Coventina Apr 2023 #15
I didn't see that. It MUST have been a factor. MontanaMama Apr 2023 #24
Poor woman. Hortensis Apr 2023 #8
him Effete Snob Apr 2023 #9
Ah, thanks. I didn't read to find out who he's left to grieve him either. nt Hortensis Apr 2023 #11
I think Andrea is the Italian name for Andrew liberal_mama Apr 2023 #16
I have no particular hate against the jogger. Coventina Apr 2023 #10
Bears in the area? MuseRider Apr 2023 #12
Maybe you would if you were afraid to step outside for fear Hortensis Apr 2023 #13
Humans are not entitled to live free from predation. Coventina Apr 2023 #14
:) Gee, that statement sounds like religious-level conviction. Hortensis Apr 2023 #18
Maybe my beliefs do rise to religious conviction, I don't know. Coventina Apr 2023 #21
Not religious, Coventina. Religious-LEVEL conviction, based on faith Hortensis Apr 2023 #26
Yes, humans love revenge. flvegan Apr 2023 #28
This is truly, an amazing thread. Fla_Democrat Apr 2023 #29
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