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61. Of course religion is being used to discriminate against a protected group.
Sat Jul 1, 2023, 01:00 PM
Jul 2023

The whole case is a hypothetical 'what if' that never happened where nobody was damaged except for an innocent man in San Franscisco whose name and identity was being used to bring this false case about.

Yes, that was his name, phone number, email address, and website on the inquiry form. But he never sent this form, he said, and at the time it was sent, he was married to a woman. “If somebody’s pulled my information, as some kind of supporting information or documentation, somebody’s falsified that,” Stewart explained. (Stewart’s last name is not included in the filing, so we will be referring to him by his first name throughout this story.)
A hate group that uses religion to bring about persecution of targeted groups then financed this fiasco, bringing it all the way to the SCOTUS.
Represented by Alliance Defending Freedom, she filed a First Amendment lawsuit in federal court in Colorado arguing that this vanilla Colorado civil rights law violates her freedom of speech by forcing her to create a custom wedding website for same-sex couples, in violation of what she thinks marriage should be.
The Roberts Court decided to hear the case despite the Southern Poverty Law Center's description of the sponsoring group as having a clear political agenda.
Founded by some 30 leaders of the Christian Right, the Alliance Defending Freedom is a legal advocacy and training group that has supported the recriminalization of sexual acts between consenting LGBTQ adults in the U.S. and criminalization abroad; has defended state-sanctioned sterilization of trans people abroad; has contended that LGBTQ people are more likely to engage in pedophilia; and claims that a “homosexual agenda” will destroy Christianity and society. ADF also works to develop “religious liberty” legislation and case law that will allow the denial of goods and services to LGBTQ people on the basis of religion. Since the election of President Trump, ADF has become one of the most influential groups informing the administration’s attack on LGBTQ rights.
This put a hypothetical case in front of SC justices who lied in conformation hearings in the US Senate about how they would rule in hypothetical instances. Now real world rights are taken away from a protected class.
and make herself much richer and famous gopiscrap Jun 2023 #1
I think she should be publicly shamed wryter2000 Jun 2023 #8
I totally agree with you gopiscrap Jul 2023 #46
People have come around to seeing LGBT+ people as beloved members of our community wryter2000 Jul 2023 #47
that's possible gopiscrap Jul 2023 #48
Yep. I'm sure the Wingnut Welfare program showered her in benefits. marmar Jul 2023 #43
How does it make her richer? brooklynite Jul 2023 #51
She will be riding the wing nut welfare gravy train for decades thanks to this dsc Jul 2023 #64
Religion has been weaponized by RWers for personal and political goals. wnylib Jun 2023 #2
Hard to tell wryter2000 Jun 2023 #3
And how in the world does a customer's beliefs etc. enter into a buy/sell relationship? Did the SWBTATTReg Jun 2023 #4
It seems the whole thing was built on a lie, as discussed in several threads here today. niyad Jul 2023 #50
I'm not sure it's possible to distinguish between the two, since homophobia Ocelot II Jun 2023 #5
What refusal? What gay couple? mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2023 #6
Un f'ing believable underpants Jun 2023 #15
How can this not invalidate the entire case? maxsolomon Jun 2023 #24
RIGHT !?!? How did it get through court systems thata fast without a plantif uponit7771 Jul 2023 #52
colorado tried to have it tossed because the plaintiff couldn't demonstrate any harm maxsolomon Jul 2023 #57
RIGHT ?! Wouldn't there be a penalty for lying to the court?! This ... hmmm uponit7771 Jul 2023 #59
It's not even that the person refused to do a project sarisataka Jun 2023 #7
I hope the dissent pointed that out wryter2000 Jun 2023 #10
On the one hand, I really don't know, and suppose it COULD be sincere. Hugh_Lebowski Jun 2023 #9
This Christian says amen. n/t wryter2000 Jun 2023 #12
I know right? Effete Snob Jun 2023 #14
I'm just SO OVER treating this random shit like it's some special fucking thing we have to kowtow to Hugh_Lebowski Jun 2023 #18
What's the difference? Effete Snob Jun 2023 #11
Let's just hope these six justices never get served Johonny Jun 2023 #13
It was a ginned up, what-if example. This alleged web designer... brush Jun 2023 #16
It depends on what's being asked. NYC Liberal Jun 2023 #17
I can appreciate that it's somewhat different when a person's creativity is required for the product Hugh_Lebowski Jun 2023 #20
For sure. I have the same thoughts. NYC Liberal Jun 2023 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author jeffreyi Jul 2023 #45
Creative Speech is key dwnsouth Jun 2023 #23
That is the key Lurker Deluxe Jun 2023 #34
Exactly NYC Liberal Jun 2023 #35
These tired old arguments... Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2023 #37
Who determines what a "unreasonable accommodation" is Lurker Deluxe Jun 2023 #40
Morgan Freeman and your supposed trucking are not public accommodations. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2023 #42
What "public accommmodation" Lurker Deluxe Jul 2023 #56
Businesses that discriminate against LGBTQ should be publicized and boycotted. no_hypocrisy Jun 2023 #19
There was no case JustAnotherGen Jun 2023 #21
That is the nuttiness of it... she has or had no business issue.. Peacetrain Jun 2023 #22
How did the lower courts rule against her then? MichMan Jun 2023 #33
+1, something doesn't look right uponit7771 Jul 2023 #53
Enables discrimination of all kinds, no? moondust Jun 2023 #25
The plan is to get a MOMFUDSKI Jun 2023 #26
It Is An Excuse The Magistrate Jun 2023 #27
A trenchant analysis, good sir, as per usual (nt) Hugh_Lebowski Jun 2023 #29
I think that case was created to go after Black people. yardwork Jun 2023 #30
DjT's deep Six Jrose Jun 2023 #31
She created the job... Now fucking DO IT! world wide wally Jun 2023 #32
It sounded like another bigot using the Bible as camouflage. Vinca Jun 2023 #36
+1, and it doesn't look like a part of the bigots businesses even existed uponit7771 Jul 2023 #54
Literally no way to KNOW. Hortensis Jun 2023 #38
Lori Smith will be remembered in history... Jrose Jun 2023 #39
More like the devil told her... RANDYWILDMAN Jul 2023 #58
Which person who refused to do a project for a gay couple? WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2023 #41
If her church is teaching her that being close to God means milestogo Jul 2023 #44
There's a million ways for a contractor to legally deny business to a potential customer. Calista241 Jul 2023 #49
Precisely. Hugin Jul 2023 #55
I've told customers to fuck off and never call me again Kaleva Jul 2023 #60
Of course religion is being used to discriminate against a protected group. icymist Jul 2023 #61
Why wouldn't she do it for that reason? ExWhoDoesntCare Jul 2023 #62
People who refuse to do work for or serve certain groups... Jrose Jul 2023 #63
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