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78. Rarely
Fri Aug 18, 2023, 03:30 AM
Aug 2023

It's different in each country. At home in Germany, it's usually aggressive drug addicts or alcoholics who accost working people while we're waiting in line at 6:00 AM, hoping to buy a roll for the train to work before their train leaves. They tend to be aggressive. I once had one who mistakenly thought I had given money to an "English-speaker," and accused me of discrimination because I gave to an English-speaker, but not to a fellow German. I guess I should have taken it as a so-called "left-handed compliment" that he thought I was a native speaker of German.

Sometimes, it's women from "that ethnic group from northern India who cannot be named on DU" who, on orders from their men, give babies heavy tranquilizers and try to curry sympathy that way. They are more heavily represented in Belgium, where I have to be frequently, and Italy, where I almost never go, than in Germany, but there are still a couple (estimated 2.4) million in Germany. They have a practiced routine, which we find offensive--admittedly a culture thing. A friend of mine who now lives in Belgium was born in Transylvania. His native language is Hungarian, but lived there under the Socialists, and was thus forced to speak only Romanian in school. There was corporal punishment for children speaking Hungarian in school. He makes jokes with the women when they come up to us on the street, but he does not give them money. Most of them know either Hungarian or Romanian. Some are from Slovakia, but he doesn't speak Slovakian (neither do I). You can tell when their male overseers are approaching, because the joking stops in an instant, as if someone hit an off switch, and they scatter. He warned me to never speak Romanian or Hungarian to any of them on my own, or I'd be marked and followed. He could get away with it, because he is fluent in both, which I am not.

In France, there is a practiced routine that is loudly repeated on métro cars: I find myself without work or shelter, and rather than rob people, I try to get by this way, so if you have any spare money or meal vouchers ("un p'tit ticket restaurant"--and always the same phrase, repeated in exactly the same cadence by métro panhandlers all over Paris), this is what I ask. I'll sometimes offer food, which is not looked upon kindly.

In the States, I rarely encounter them, as my time here is very limited. Airport to house or hotel, to work appointment or friend or doctor, and then on to the next city. One time, my wife was in a small store in tiny Wellfleet, MA, when a woman with a baby started crying. The store's electronic payment system had broken down, and she only had a card with which she wanted to pay for some formula to feed her baby. But with their system broken, the store now only took cash, of which she had none. My wife gave her the $5 she needed. She and I both mistrust and dislike the concept of the "cashless society," this being only one of many reasons. But while the woman was caught in an unfortunate situation, we never really considered her a panhandler. As a lifelong professional social worker, my wife has very fine-tuned antennae to detect if it is an act or not, and this definitely was not.

If a panhandler is not pushy, and does not come across as a total phony, then sometimes we give them money, but reluctantly. Germans (and resident non-Germans, like me) pay a lot of taxes, some of which support the network of government-subsidized help for just such people. My wife was part of that network for all her professional life. Her pension, with the latest round of increases, is all of €1200 a month, and most of that is taxable. No one does it for the money, that's for sure.

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Do you give to panhandlers? [View all] Oopsie Daisy Aug 2023 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2023 #1
I do on occasion. It is becoming increasingly harder for people to survive out there. CentralMass Aug 2023 #2
In Australia, two American guys had a sign saying they spent all their money jimfields33 Aug 2023 #25
We did a similar thing in Las Vegas - Ms. Toad Aug 2023 #45
creativity counts NJCher Aug 2023 #64
Here in Stockholm, almost all panhandlers we encounter are part of criminal Roma gangs. Celerity Aug 2023 #70
Interesting... róisín_dubh Aug 2023 #74
The Romanian (and Bulgarian, etc etc) government and society treats the Roma like shite, thus many Celerity Aug 2023 #76
I don't pull out my wallet on the street. Demobrat Aug 2023 #3
I rarely have cash MissB Aug 2023 #4
Sometimes. But I am very wary--especially if they approach me. Women with kids I will give to... hlthe2b Aug 2023 #5
Most of them I see in my area are standing at the exit from a freeway to a major city street MichMan Aug 2023 #6
Addiction and mental issues probably keep them from being responsible workers. Oopsie Daisy Aug 2023 #11
Her child was left in the car, and she walked away and went inside? Croney Aug 2023 #7
I know. I thought about that later. Oopsie Daisy Aug 2023 #9
we tend to give to buskers Recycle_Guru Aug 2023 #8
Have you seen any fake violinists? Effete Snob Aug 2023 #12
yes. we don't tive them to fakes or your nee who don't know how to play Recycle_Guru Aug 2023 #26
Haha! The first time I heard that bdjhawk Aug 2023 #72
I will help women and some old men AKwannabe Aug 2023 #10
My husband had a similar experience. She asked for money... Oopsie Daisy Aug 2023 #14
It depends. Jirel Aug 2023 #13
Yes. maxsolomon Aug 2023 #15
I will if a pet is involved. My guess the pet is Polly Hennessey Aug 2023 #16
More often than not. nt hay rick Aug 2023 #17
Not anymore MistakenLamb Aug 2023 #18
Old white guy here . Permanut Aug 2023 #19
I used to, and I still do sometimes. BigDemVoter Aug 2023 #20
I was at Salvation Army one time, in line waiting to get a tax receipt for donations. LuckyCharms Aug 2023 #21
That was kind of you! I almost always do. 50 Shades Of Blue Aug 2023 #22
If they are outside a grocery store I may offer to buy them some BigmanPigman Aug 2023 #23
for safety reasons, no. I don't like to be approached in that way ecstatic Aug 2023 #24
I do. Captain Stern Aug 2023 #27
Generally I dont thatdemguy Aug 2023 #28
I keep a baggie with loose one dollar bills in my car console, so they're easy to access. And yes, chia Aug 2023 #29
I have the same philosophy as you describe. marked50 Aug 2023 #40
There you go. Glad to be in agreement with you! chia Aug 2023 #69
I commute through a heavily panhandled area daily... EarthFirst Aug 2023 #30
I felt compelled to give to street preachers Kaleva Aug 2023 #31
I used to keep dollars in my car for a woman I saw every morning nini Aug 2023 #32
Once to get him away from my truck while I made a delivery. Emile Aug 2023 #33
I feel obliged to give money to panhandlers. TomSlick Aug 2023 #34
Yup! Johnny2X2X Aug 2023 #35
Ram Das wrote of his cultural-karmic shock of panhandlers/ beggers in India ... sanatanadharma Aug 2023 #36
One winter season there were an assortment of families who hung out outside Trader Joe's ... Hekate Aug 2023 #37
If I have cash, I almost always do Victor_c3 Aug 2023 #38
Yeah, I usually give them something. I try not to over analyze it too much. dameatball Aug 2023 #39
I don't give them money but like you, I have gotten food at a fast food place and given them that. appleannie1 Aug 2023 #41
Sometimes yes. cilla4progress Aug 2023 #42
I used to, frequently tom_kelly Aug 2023 #43
Always. I am compelled to give ... Joinfortmill Aug 2023 #44
You did the best thing - buying her something to eat SouthernDem4ever Aug 2023 #46
I only give money to elderly people kimbutgar Aug 2023 #47
That is heartbreaking. Perhaps you will see her (them) again. So common today. We are not addressing Evolve Dammit Aug 2023 #48
I do what you did. Food but not money. Wonder Why Aug 2023 #49
I wrestle with it - and try to find other ways to provide support. Ms. Toad Aug 2023 #50
I do sometimes. ShazzieB Aug 2023 #51
I always pay cash for stories, true or not. hunter Aug 2023 #52
I never give cash. I keep bags of food in my car and give those away. efhmc Aug 2023 #53
Food don't buy shoes. Iggo Aug 2023 #59
I do. I've also brought one guy into a mini market and bought him what he wanted to eat. C Moon Aug 2023 #54
Yes, unless they are threatening. Midnight Writer Aug 2023 #55
When I can, sure. madamesilverspurs Aug 2023 #56
When I meet someone begging for money, I alway think, I do not want my money going for alcohol spike jones Aug 2023 #57
Always. (n/t) Iggo Aug 2023 #58
Only occasionally... AdamGG Aug 2023 #60
Yes, in the city. More than that I've helped Quakerfriend Aug 2023 #61
Yes, sometimes. Dyedinthewoolliberal Aug 2023 #62
Hell yeah! nt Kahuna Aug 2023 #63
McDonalds gift cards V850i Aug 2023 #65
yes I do. barbtries Aug 2023 #66
It depends. Richard58 Aug 2023 #67
Unfortunately, this scene is all to common in America and it shouldn't be. William769 Aug 2023 #68
I have done so many times, DemocraticPatriot Aug 2023 #71
Mostly no but KentuckyWoman Aug 2023 #73
It depends... róisín_dubh Aug 2023 #75
Driving a truck, you DiverDave Aug 2023 #77
Rarely DFW Aug 2023 #78
yes, if I have small bills with me. BlueWaveNeverEnd Aug 2023 #79
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