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13. I think I'm glad the decision isn't mine
Sat Oct 21, 2023, 10:19 AM
Oct 2023

I don't know what the solution to this is. I'm pretty strongly defensive of Israel and Jews, but I also want peace and life for innocent Palestinians as well. But when there's war, no one's going to get everything they want out of a situation.

I don't think any of us know what the right course of action is. Every solution offered in the current circumstance leads down a path where you're dealing with various consequences down the road. Israel goes full in, civilians suffer. Israel does nothing, genocidal antisemites become emboldened. Ideally, you want to say, "Have special forces root them out!" but that isn't a realistic scenario with an organization that has deeply embedded themselves in the civilian population like a bunch of maniacal ticks.

It feels like every choice isn't great.

I was listening to someone - not sure who, maybe someone on PBS news hour? - who said one thing President Biden is probably doing with Netanyahu is trying to pin him down with a plan. "What's your plan here? What's your goal? What does the end of this look like?" Which is 100% absolutely the question that we all should be asking, but especially any military response. Don't go into war with only a rough idea of objectives. You need some metrics here. What does victory look like to you?

And people need to have answers for that - realistic answers. "What if we just declared peace and everyone hugged each other and said no more war?" isn't an answer.

Two state solution? Great. I support a two state solution. How does one get there in such a way that Israel feels secure and Palestinians are sated by what they receive?

Well, that's the issue. I'm glad the decision isn't mine.

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