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Cleita

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125. Just because we don't go into detail on a short post doesn't mean
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 02:41 AM
Nov 2012

we don't know. Thanks for the info those for those who may need some brushing up. I know most of us here over 50 have become quite familiar with the SS website. It is an invaluable aid for the retired and soon to be retired.

I would be furious. MrSlayer Nov 2012 #1
what would you be willing to do to prevent this? nashville_brook Nov 2012 #188
My union is very active politically. MrSlayer Nov 2012 #192
I've got Nelson and Rubio nashville_brook Nov 2012 #231
Thank you, signed and comment added! nt Sadiedog Nov 2012 #207
+1 lsewpershad Nov 2012 #189
with Obamacare, insurers might oppose raising the age, and it might add to the deficit anyway CreekDog Nov 2012 #191
Absolutely furious! Warpy Nov 2012 #2
Gotta tell you that behindthe8ballnchain Nov 2012 #41
nice Sex Pistols reference! eggsactly. nashville_brook Nov 2012 #56
"they want younger, cheaper and stupider" - same in my line of work wordpix Nov 2012 #99
i've been planning how to segue into a "wisdom" career nashville_brook Nov 2012 #149
+1 nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #106
You still get to 65 with an intact body Warpy Nov 2012 #141
Aren't nurses at highest risk for back problems? Patiod Nov 2012 #152
I'm a PT. We're way up there too. Squinch Nov 2012 #160
The corporate expiration date used to be 55 Warpy Nov 2012 #168
Thanks! JustAnotherGen Nov 2012 #209
totally agree - no one takes into account the kind of work 90% of us do. nashville_brook Nov 2012 #62
It's worse than 'they have no clue'. They don't care. Those who want to cut sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #121
Great point it`s not their money. NT Sadiedog Nov 2012 #208
Give the desk jockeys a break, we're all in this together. The attitude you project about those Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #129
I've worked highly technical office jobs Warpy Nov 2012 #140
The pay is definitely an an issue even though many office guys make less that physical work. Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #163
i'm urging folks to start thinking about what you're able to do to prevent this nashville_brook Nov 2012 #190
At 61, NOT VERY GOOD. Faygo Kid Nov 2012 #3
+1 -- Medicare not warfare. nashville_brook Nov 2012 #44
excellent slogan wordpix Nov 2012 #100
Scrap The Cap nashville_brook Nov 2012 #146
i'm with you "scrap the cap" newspeak Nov 2012 #155
We already feel screwed - my husband was hoping to retire at 63 csziggy Nov 2012 #4
The exchanges are not much help if truedelphi Nov 2012 #21
what? robinlynne Nov 2012 #73
Let's see - truedelphi Nov 2012 #241
Very few of us can afford 1k per month for insurance! I can't imagine. robinlynne Nov 2012 #245
Right now, the only subsidy for anyone my age in the state of Calif. truedelphi Nov 2012 #249
I think the age of eligibility for Medicare has always been 65.... Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #37
I believe the starting age for Medicare has always been 65 unless doc03 Nov 2012 #109
If you become too sick to work at 58 what good is SS/Medicare? banned from Kos Nov 2012 #5
If you are disabled you can get Social Security benefits before you turn 65. Cleita Nov 2012 #7
I'm 53 and am on SSDI and get Medicare. Kaleva Nov 2012 #15
Medicare will pay for some medical conditions like renal failure just Cleita Nov 2012 #19
2 Years union_maid Nov 2012 #32
That's good. I didn't know that. Cleita Nov 2012 #39
And it's two years from the date your disability began. Kaleva Nov 2012 #52
Medicare and Medicaid are not the same, nor is SSI and SSDI. freshwest Nov 2012 #98
Just because we don't go into detail on a short post doesn't mean Cleita Nov 2012 #125
But you posted incorrect information about disability and Medicare, claiming that Bluenorthwest Nov 2012 #227
I never said Medicare is at 65 even with disability. Cleita Nov 2012 #240
True! ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #107
I have a tendency to get blood clots. Kaleva Nov 2012 #38
yeah, but SSDI is for anyone - even a 30 yr old. banned from Kos Nov 2012 #17
Hmm, yes and no. truedelphi Nov 2012 #251
Doesn't seem right to me. Cleita Nov 2012 #252
Well three years from now, I am elgible for Social Security itself. truedelphi Nov 2012 #253
You don't know how the system works? sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #22
there is no age restriction on SSDI banned from Kos Nov 2012 #55
Then what was your point? sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #123
If a person qualifies for SSDI, they can get Medicare as well. Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #40
If you are trying to make a point, spit it out. Using questions is like Hannity. nm rhett o rick Nov 2012 #111
Even though I am already on those programs, I would feel betrayed for you. Cleita Nov 2012 #6
Really great answer. truedelphi Nov 2012 #24
Couldn't agree more! nashville_brook Nov 2012 #165
This nation can afford LOWERING the age JKingman Nov 2012 #8
Even Cuba does better than us. nt Cleita Nov 2012 #9
Yes, but WHERE is that wealth? BlueStreak Nov 2012 #27
Yes, we know where it is! We only need a little of it JKingman Nov 2012 #45
Absolutely Correct, and Welcome to DU! bananas Nov 2012 #117
Raising Medicare age is a death sentencefor many - truedelphi Nov 2012 #10
omg -- I had NO IDEA the exchanges were so useless! nashville_brook Nov 2012 #69
I'm 51. I do NOT believe "Social Security" as we know it now will be in effect when I'm 60, 65... cherokeeprogressive Nov 2012 #11
You are looking at this the wrong way. JKingman Nov 2012 #20
There are more than enough workers, Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #30
would you sign the ALF-CIO petition for this? nashville_brook Nov 2012 #186
I probably already had Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #226
not yet -- i need to do that today nashville_brook Nov 2012 #230
Excellent! Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #232
we baby boomers have been front loading the system since Rayguns NMDemDist2 Nov 2012 #59
Thank you for the wisdom of your comment. n/t truedelphi Nov 2012 #250
That's absolutely not true. You are buying the big lie. sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #122
precisely. It's a con. nashville_brook Nov 2012 #173
The Soc Sec trust fund is intact. In fact it runs a surplus. Which is invested in interest-bearing pinto Nov 2012 #205
precisely -- but, the good thing is that it hasn't been taken seriously in this latest debate. nashville_brook Nov 2012 #234
The problem is, ronnie624 Nov 2012 #236
I agree, it should stand on its own. And does. Soc Sec payments aren't borrowed money. pinto Nov 2012 #237
The devil is in the details BlueStreak Nov 2012 #12
If you were born in 1960 or later, your full benefit age is already 67. Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #28
Right and that crept up from 65 to 67 over 20 years BlueStreak Nov 2012 #76
Perhaps, Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #134
There is a question of first principles BlueStreak Nov 2012 #136
people aren't living longer -- that's a RW myth nashville_brook Nov 2012 #172
It seems to me that the larger part of the problem Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #224
Yes, I agree almost 100% BlueStreak Nov 2012 #228
It depends on when it starts. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2012 #13
cutting off payments to people with income >120,000 would cut less than 1% out HiPointDem Nov 2012 #46
I oppose cutting off payments to people with income >12,000. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2012 #164
raise it, get it over with. 52 here. n/t. okieinpain Nov 2012 #14
Betrayed, but not surprised. With Erskine Bowles and sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #16
i would feel like I'm done listening to the president talk Doctor_J Nov 2012 #18
The Presdident has already said that Social Security can't be cut. Ever. truedelphi Nov 2012 #29
Not only would I feel betrayed but I would never vote again. I mean, why bother? forestpath Nov 2012 #23
Those born in 1960 or later Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #25
Yes please emphasize that fact abelenkpe Nov 2012 #81
the range of ages collecting, means that a raise in the age lowers EVERYONE's benefits. nashville_brook Nov 2012 #90
Another way they screw over the 99% Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #135
It's such a cynical way to cut off benefits to people. A certain percentage will die before ever geckosfeet Nov 2012 #26
Good point. nashville_brook Nov 2012 #171
Yes, it is cynical and shows what some people value. Sadiedog Nov 2012 #211
NOT acceptable. patrice Nov 2012 #31
Furious, betrayed and done with it all. Autumn Nov 2012 #33
As pointed out above, you (and I) aren't even eligible for full benefits until you're 67. bluedigger Nov 2012 #34
probably too young to care or be paying much attention. up into your thirties you HiPointDem Nov 2012 #48
It happened in the 90's didn't it? bluedigger Nov 2012 #57
nope, 1983, ushered in in steps. reagan, the source of all things shitty where SS HiPointDem Nov 2012 #64
Guess, I'm losing it already. bluedigger Nov 2012 #72
I agree. They play the game by saying things like it would only affect still_one Nov 2012 #35
Americans live longer today than in FDR's time. Therefore, it is not necessarily something to deny graham4anything Nov 2012 #36
Yes, that's the right wing's favorite talking point. Cleita Nov 2012 #43
Benefit age has already been raised. The gap between post-retirement longevity HiPointDem Nov 2012 #54
well, i remember reading a sad, depressing article over ten years ago newspeak Nov 2012 #157
I thought that, too, until recently. Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #67
raising the age would actually REDUCE the benefits everyone gets, regardless. nashville_brook Nov 2012 #82
You must come from old money. RagAss Nov 2012 #87
This message was self-deleted by its author dtom67 Nov 2012 #103
It isn't logical, it is simple minded. TheKentuckian Nov 2012 #130
I blame Ralph Nader for this too... Gore and Bush were NOT the same, yet Nader lied again. graham4anything Nov 2012 #131
Nobody said you were simple minded, your argument is and you did nothing TheKentuckian Nov 2012 #137
If Obama gets us a France like health care, we save 1000 times the money SS provides graham4anything Nov 2012 #138
it is flat-out untrue that people are living longer (dying at an older age) nashville_brook Nov 2012 #145
Where is the equality? Simple, Medicare for All. Like all other civilized sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #203
this isn't about "the baby-boomers being greedy" it's about Wall Street being greedy nashville_brook Nov 2012 #151
Wow! Well lucky you if your kids won't need SS. Lucky me too. But I am not so sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #202
ranting is nice, but reading what I said would be nicer. Nobody is taking SS away. However graham4anything Nov 2012 #213
Well, those seem like reasonable proposals although I would have sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #220
I agree with MOST of what you write here, except graham4anything Nov 2012 #222
Well, those are all good points and I have no objection to sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #238
This message was self-deleted by its author Sadiedog Nov 2012 #212
Except that we aren't living longer. jeff47 Nov 2012 #217
spot on. nashville_brook Nov 2012 #235
Furious and betrayed. nt Ilsa Nov 2012 #42
this former-republican Nov 2012 #50
TOTALLY P.O'D! Seriously. I will be very angry. Very very very angry. It's unacceptable. nt Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #47
Get ready to be PO'd. Age for full retirement for anyone born 1960 citizen blues Nov 2012 #187
My full benefits age is currently 66. That's old enough. nt Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #214
Goddamn right. UNACCEPTABLE. We can expand, NOT contract the social contract DirkGently Nov 2012 #49
+10000000 -- there's too many people who want you to think it's "inevitable" right now... nashville_brook Nov 2012 #66
Tada. It's a scam. A proposed taking. Nothing more or less than that. DirkGently Nov 2012 #83
It would SUCK! kaiden Nov 2012 #51
totally betrayed. i started paying in just when reagan doubled fica, exactly to prevent this. unblock Nov 2012 #53
me too. and still when it was doubled, it was amazingly cheap, nashville_brook Nov 2012 #71
Ripped off catbyte Nov 2012 #58
Um, I already only eligible at 67..getting kinky Congress. MichiganVote Nov 2012 #60
It would be one more rug pulled out from my senior years. liberal N proud Nov 2012 #61
seriously -- to pile and age change with the decimation the middle class has endured nashville_brook Nov 2012 #85
this assumes your elected politicians care what you think now that they elected again nt msongs Nov 2012 #63
if you are too ill to work until you are 65 sabbat hunter Nov 2012 #65
It would be another American ripoff in US = United Stupidity, Inc. on the fast train RKP5637 Nov 2012 #68
I'm eligible to file for early SS in December--and I am--to begin when I turn 62 next March. mnhtnbb Nov 2012 #70
If you get $700 month at 62, and the age is raised to 69, your benefit drops to $610 (less $90) nashville_brook Nov 2012 #84
It is that important abelenkpe Nov 2012 #74
Time to write the President and let him know how we feel. Milliesmom Nov 2012 #75
call and write your senators, also -- that's where the action is right now. nashville_brook Nov 2012 #175
Yes, and fighting means actual fighting, not plethoro Nov 2012 #77
Well. You said it best Savannahmann Nov 2012 #78
Raising Medicare eligibility age = mass murder eridani Nov 2012 #79
amen! nashville_brook Nov 2012 #89
Betrayed, disillusioned, and extremely pissed-off. Marr Nov 2012 #80
Suicidal - and that is not a joke. RagAss Nov 2012 #86
Washington Post BlueinOhio Nov 2012 #88
Completely pissed...... bowens43 Nov 2012 #91
As long as Mr President signs off on it, I'm cool with it. limpyhobbler Nov 2012 #92
Times have changed. Those programs need some adjustments. MannyGoldstein Nov 2012 #93
This message was self-deleted by its author dtom67 Nov 2012 #97
You have it all wrong. See, the money doesn't all go into offshore accounts MannyGoldstein Nov 2012 #102
Third-Way Manny... nashville_brook Nov 2012 #120
An honest description of how I feel about this would probably be a TOS violation. n/t gkhouston Nov 2012 #94
for reals. nashville_brook Nov 2012 #119
Makes me want to JEB Nov 2012 #95
This message was self-deleted by its author dtom67 Nov 2012 #96
Enraged. That would be discriminatory and there's no need to raise the age BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #101
Medicare change -- Lower the age to 0 !! Medicare for All !! Overseas Nov 2012 #104
Medicare should be open to anyone who wants to buy into it. begin_within Nov 2012 #105
It would suck but I see the logic behind it krawhitham Nov 2012 #108
it's a RW red herring that "people are living longer" -- completely NOT TRUE nashville_brook Nov 2012 #150
I've been considering "means testing" for Social Security, but.... Hulk Nov 2012 #110
You're right to doubt/question means testing. PETRUS Nov 2012 #113
k&r - they should LOWER the minimum age bananas Nov 2012 #112
Furious PADemD Nov 2012 #114
I'm with you, nashville_brook... ReRe Nov 2012 #115
If the Democrats follow through rudycantfail Nov 2012 #116
PISSED. OFF. AS. HELL. ProfessionalLeftist Nov 2012 #118
you know it is ALREADY past 65, right? Skittles Nov 2012 #124
you can start taking 75% of full retirement at 62 nashville_brook Nov 2012 #148
Eliminate the cap.. Permanut Nov 2012 #126
Scrapping the cap is the fairest way to make SS solvent nashville_brook Nov 2012 #139
IF we choose to address it now, which we don't have to do. DirkGently Nov 2012 #142
there's that keen sense of the obvious :) nashville_brook Nov 2012 #147
I'm 62 and don't know how many work years I have left in me ribrepin Nov 2012 #127
I made it to 64 before they got me for age discrimination! CTyankee Nov 2012 #258
BETRAYED was the word that leaped to mind. aquart Nov 2012 #128
Raising the age is discriminatory, and is bad underwriting panAmerican Nov 2012 #132
A high retirement age hurts those who need SS the most. aandegoons Nov 2012 #133
also, raising the age, would cut the benefits for everyone... nashville_brook Nov 2012 #144
Bastards better not! lonestarnot Nov 2012 #143
it would put me well into the nothing left to lose territory. Cobalt Violet Nov 2012 #153
How would you feel if a supposed "Democrat" even suggested the above. bvar22 Nov 2012 #154
and...can we trust our party to hold the line on this nashville_brook Nov 2012 #159
I just turned 64 today HockeyMom Nov 2012 #156
happy birthday! nashville_brook Nov 2012 #161
About the same as I do now. raouldukelives Nov 2012 #158
I'd feel robbed, a witness to class theft davekriss Nov 2012 #162
Unsurprised. Skip Intro Nov 2012 #166
Raising the age is ok for some worker classes. All workers should have the option to bluestate10 Nov 2012 #167
ABSOLUTELY FURIOUS !!! WillyT Nov 2012 #169
Heck yeah, WillyT! nashville_brook Nov 2012 #170
The word you used Liberalynn Nov 2012 #174
wondering also, given how negatively we feel about it, what are we willing to do? nashville_brook Nov 2012 #184
Thanks. I will sign. Liberalynn Nov 2012 #239
Where was all this outrage when they did raise the SS age? Curmudgeoness Nov 2012 #176
i think a lot has changed since 1983. nashville_brook Nov 2012 #178
Your full retirement age is already 67 Yo_Mama Nov 2012 #177
True, and very realistic! JKingman Nov 2012 #180
indeed -- most people don't realize this. also, you're able to take a percentage of bennies nashville_brook Nov 2012 #181
Exactly - it's really a closet cut Yo_Mama Nov 2012 #185
Betrayed Marrah_G Nov 2012 #179
so...what would you be willing to do about it? nashville_brook Nov 2012 #182
Thank you for the link Marrah_G Nov 2012 #193
AFL-CIO is doing an organized effort -- sign the petition nashville_brook Nov 2012 #183
done Marrah_G Nov 2012 #199
Raising the age is a child mind solution Rain Mcloud Nov 2012 #194
we have a messed up way of thinking about work -- i mean, working people KNOW the product/service nashville_brook Nov 2012 #196
LOWER IT TO 60 and take the income cap OFF SunSeeker Nov 2012 #195
just commented upthread that we have a lot more power than we realize nashville_brook Nov 2012 #197
Thanks for the link. Signed it! nt SunSeeker Nov 2012 #215
Betrayed! ebbie15644 Nov 2012 #198
AFL-CIO is doing an organized effort against this -- sign the petition nashville_brook Nov 2012 #200
signed and I contacted my Senators already!! ebbie15644 Nov 2012 #247
It would be the very thing Obama said he wouldnt do DearAbby Nov 2012 #201
What would they do if the 99% just said no and stop working until we got what we wanted Pakid Nov 2012 #204
Encourage you to persistently document med conditions that effect your work abilities. pinto Nov 2012 #206
Lower Social Security Eligibility to 55; Raise Benefits By 15% ProSense Nov 2012 #210
Now you're talking! SunSeeker Nov 2012 #216
I'm confused Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2012 #218
What amount a year is the largest amount someone receives from their SS a year? graham4anything Nov 2012 #219
people aren't living longer -- that's a Wall St myth: why do rich guys want to raise retirement age? nashville_brook Nov 2012 #229
Eleven percent of the Baby Boomers are already truedelphi Nov 2012 #242
How would I feel? Dead. Glitterati Nov 2012 #221
Betrayed, enraged, furious magical thyme Nov 2012 #223
Pissed Carolina Nov 2012 #225
Betrayed, 99Forever Nov 2012 #233
It makes me worry about my brothers liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #243
i don't know anyone with a "serious" retirement fund nashville_brook Nov 2012 #244
Are you smarter than a US Congressman? I think we all are- why are we waiting on them? RepublicansRZombies Nov 2012 #246
Betrayed is not the word SLY KAT Nov 2012 #248
This is a great thread and glad to see it back on the front page Oilwellian Nov 2012 #254
What you mean if, Kemosabe? deaniac21 Nov 2012 #255
We are already betrayed and suckered. woo me with science Nov 2012 #256
LIVID would be an understatement! nt Raine Nov 2012 #257
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