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In reply to the discussion: Question: how would you feel if they raised the minimum age of Social Security or Medicare? [View all]graham4anything
(11,464 posts)My point is- let's say we can secure an amount for everyone to save/get/make that is larger per year, every year FOR ANY TAXPAYER right now, today, in the pocket.
Let's say health care becomes cheaper or by having some great system like the French do where they pay a little more in taxes NOW, but through their entire life, they get sick, go to hospital, get cured and get NO BILLS whatsoever. All they get is better.
And then go back to work, pay again a little more in taxes and pass it forward.
In effect, a taxpayer will be saving maybe a million dollars in hospital bills or more over the course of their life and without those expensive health care premiums to the insurance companies, month by month people are saving ACTUAL MONEY. (while only paying a few dollars a month in taxes more).
That is actual savings x12 months a year x every year of their life from day one til they retire
(where then social security would still be there, but they would be so much richer over the course of their entire life anyhow.)
This in effect would be the great equalizer. Because everyone is equal in getting sick. Nobody rich or poor gets out of the world alive or without a health problem sometime in their life.
Now, if it takes a little word dealing to achieve this, I say go for it.
And let's not think about OH they won't give us the other part, let's mope and whine about negatives instead of positives.
I trust President Obama as he has not proved otherwise, to know what he is doing and his people know what they are doing.
And his historic moving forward on health care in 2009 is now the law, is not even implemented yet til 2014, and already he and democrats are thinking and moving it even more forward without it being in the public forefront at this time.
And let the republicans sell their talking points and even let them think they may achieve something. At the end of the day the fat cats will still live their lives then die. They will not get out of this life alive. But in the end, America will be better tomorrow because of President Obama and his looking 7 or 9 steps ahead, not just what the rightwing media is tossing us in today's news.
OUR children and grandchildren indeed will be better off thanks to President Obama and OUR work electing him thousands of times over in the coming decades and all.
YES we do really care about them, and like the movie "Lincoln" showed, allowing the other side to think they are in on it, will make it that much easier to pass more through they won't even be aware of, even if we have to have a sleight of hand to do just that.
IMHO