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All Mixed Up

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41. People think the state of America right now is horrible.
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 05:16 PM
Mar 2

And as president, Biden is going to get the blame fair or not.

Did Bush's economic policies cause the recession in the early 90s? Probably not. The recession was going to likely happen coming out of the Reagan years no matter who was president.

But Bush largely got the blame.

Was Carter responsible for the energy crisis and sky-high inflation? Nope. But he still got the blame for it.

Hell, the great depression literally happened weeks into Hoover's presidency and he's still remembered as the president who caused it even though he had no tangible way of doing so as president (granted his actions after the start didn't help, including signing the Smoot–Hawley Tariff Act).

The point is, Americans are not satisfied with the country. You can talk about the booming economy but when they still can't afford groceries or rent or to buy a house, that all feels distant.

It's not Biden's fault. But he'll get the blame as president.

Even Obama was starting to get a stronger amount of blame for the poor economy in 2012 despite everyone knowing the recession started under Bush. It's a big reason his reelection wasn't in the bag until late in the process.

We just gotta hope prices continue to fall. If they do, Biden will likely benefit. If they don't, he will struggle in November.

About That Poll (NY Times) [View all] brooklynite Mar 2 OP
In context, it does make sense. TwilightZone Mar 2 #1
I hope Democrats are NOT taking up this bet without actually putting up LOTs of work riversedge Mar 2 #2
The race was always going to be close. TwilightZone Mar 2 #10
I just don't get what is so horrible about Biden, especially, in comparison to Trump. RKP5637 Mar 2 #3
Biden isn't horrible. Tennessee Hillbilly Mar 2 #17
Yep, exactly! RKP5637 Mar 2 #20
People think the state of America right now is horrible. All Mixed Up Mar 2 #41
Excellent summary! RKP5637 Mar 2 #48
That explanation of the poll makes sense. David__77 Mar 2 #4
yes samsingh Mar 2 #9
More polls ... Charging Triceratops Mar 2 #5
Thank you. Alliepoo Mar 2 #6
"Dean Phillips finished fourth in a two man race," LOL! Ocelot II Mar 2 #7
He's a spoiler so he has plenty of Republican cash to keep trying to spoil. emulatorloo Mar 2 #26
He doesn't seem to be very good at it, though. Ocelot II Mar 2 #27
He's horrible at it! emulatorloo Mar 2 #31
i think a lot more than 3% of trump's supporters have fled. look at the decline in attendance in his rallies samsingh Mar 2 #8
Rally attendance really isn't indicative of anything. TwilightZone Mar 2 #11
Unless people are lying, that quote makes it worse not better karynnj Mar 2 #12
Yeah, that's the part I choked on, too. Gidney N Cloyd Mar 2 #13
Many people are just not that into politics womanofthehills Mar 2 #16
Here's why it could be true Polybius Mar 2 #21
When you start to break polls down like this, the MOE becomes much bigger. All Mixed Up Mar 2 #42
Good points karynnj Mar 2 #44
The Times' polls are consistently outliers, to generate clicks and views Fiendish Thingy Mar 2 #14
Pollsters adjust for oversampling. TwilightZone Mar 2 #23
Actually it is a huge issue Fiendish Thingy Mar 2 #25
I'd like to add something to your signature line quote. barbaraann Mar 2 #32
How are 97% still voting for him edhopper Mar 2 #15
They know the primaries will be over. former9thward Mar 2 #18
You're telling us Trump is dropping out? HareKrishna Mar 2 #29
No. former9thward Mar 2 #40
Because most of the other 40% were always going to vote for him in November. TwilightZone Mar 2 #22
if Biden does not win big I will be shocked RANDYWILDMAN Mar 2 #19
Post removed Post removed Mar 2 #24
If you have a reason to dislike Political Wire, please share...... brooklynite Mar 2 #30
10% will now back trmp? spanone Mar 2 #28
(pssssttt... it's not true.) Think. Again. Mar 2 #33
I'm just going to say this vercetti2021 Mar 2 #34
I'm seeing this NYT poll given a lot coverage on a number of sites. sop Mar 2 #35
Joe and Dump tied with women at 46% d_b Mar 2 #36
You're always racing to DU to defend these chump-ass polls. Do you make a living from polling sciences? SoFlaBro Mar 2 #37
No. I'm a retired transportation planner. brooklynite Mar 2 #38
How do you know that the polls are not just made up? There is ZERO to validate accuracy since there is no election. SoFlaBro Mar 2 #39
You think someone just created this poll out of whole cloth? TexasDem69 Mar 2 #43
The poll is flawed videohead5 Mar 2 #45
I asked what is the method of verification. You know what you can do with your blessing. SoFlaBro Mar 2 #47
The article in the NYT is definitely flawed and the poll ain't worth much. nt BootinUp Mar 2 #46
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