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maxrandb

(16,400 posts)
Sun Mar 3, 2024, 01:11 PM Mar 2024

The media and pollsters haven't learned. It may just kill us all. [View all]

Last edited Sun Mar 3, 2024, 03:07 PM - Edit history (1)

I served almost 30 years in the United States Navy. During my time, I served under Presidents Carter, Reagan, Bush I, Clinton, Bush II and Obama.

I disagreed with the policies of some of those presidents, even the Democratic ones. It didn't matter. Sometimes my political side of the argument would win. Sometimes it didn't, and that was OK. You just worked harder and voted harder the next election.

Even at their worst, I never believed that any of those presidents would destroy the fabric of America, burn our Constitution, try to remain in office through violence, or turn America into an unrecognizable authoritarian, fascist hellscape.

We now have a presumptive nominee of one major party that has done, and promises to do all of the above.

The media and pollsters continue to treat this as if it's a contest between Kerry and Bush.

They are still stuck on covering and polling the race as if it's a normal contest between a lower taxes, less regulation and social programs Republican, and a slightly higher top marginal taxrate, protect our environment, provide for the common good Democrat.

There is NOTHING normal about this

The only norm that has not been shattered is the media's and pollsters insistence to treat it normally.

Pollsters continue to run on the norm that this is a popularity contest about issues. Really? Can anyone tell me what Donnie Dipshits economic policy is?

If you didn't know who Hitler was, it would be perfectly normal to ask; "Who do you feel will be better for the economy, Hitler, or candidate X"?

But we do know who Hitler was. We have evidence of what he did.

If he were still alive, would it be acceptable for a pollster to frame a question as; "who do you trust more on immigration policy, Hitler, or candidate X"?

Sometimes candidates lie about their opponents. Kerry's military service was lied about by Bush advocates. Bush' cocaine and possible drug abuse was highlighted by Kerry advocates.

Here's the glaring difference. Neither Kerry's military service, nor Bush' drug use WAS ADJUDICATED in a court of law. There was no video of Bush bragging about snorting coke.

Donnie Dipshit has been found liable for sexual assault by a jury of his peers.

Donnie Dipshit has been found by a court of law to have committed fraud to the tune of half-a-billion dollars.

Donnie Dipshit has been indicted by 4 GRAND JURIES in multiple jurisdictions on 91 felony counts.

That his MAGAt fan base don't care about those facts, doesn't mean these FACTS shouldn't be included in poll questions.

Seems to me the question that should be asked is not; "who do you trust more on the economy, candidate X or candidate Y?" It should be; "who do you trust more on the economy, the adjudicated rapist, fraudster, 91 time indicted candidate X, or Candidate Y"?


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been voting since mcgovern oldinmtdem92 Mar 2024 #1
THIS ! Tribetime Mar 2024 #2
The media has driven most of this from Reagan's True Blue American Mar 2024 #3
The US has only two viable political parties. markodochartaigh Mar 2024 #4
I live in Florida. Crazy has been the normal for forever. Marcus IM Mar 2024 #5
This IS exactly what the Koch brothers, Crowe and other Bluethroughu Mar 2024 #6
Unfortunately, the 'media' knows exactly what they're doing. rubbersole Mar 2024 #7
You outlined many of the reasons I switched broadcast "news" off in 2004 Warpy Mar 2024 #8
Frank Zappa prescient today maxrandb Mar 2024 #9
Dipshit and republicans in general get the white man pass BaronChocula Mar 2024 #10
Been going on since richdj25 Mar 2024 #11
I just gave the same white man pass reply in another thread BaronChocula Mar 2024 #12
Presidential elections is the Super Bowl for media d_b Mar 2024 #13
"Joe Biden is old and needs to retire" Earth-shine Mar 2024 #14
Terrific post PCIntern Mar 2024 #15
Thanks. It just infuriates me maxrandb Mar 2024 #16
K&R. Spot on post! Evolve Dammit Mar 2024 #17
Kick orangecrush Mar 2024 #18
This. mn9driver Mar 2024 #19
I don't understand it maxrandb Mar 2024 #28
Fabulous MOMFUDSKI Mar 2024 #20
teevee gnewz don't give a fuck about democracy. just ratings. pansypoo53219 Mar 2024 #21
Nicole Wallace gets that right. SouthernDem4ever Mar 2024 #22
You see what capitalism produces? FAILURE, yet you keep on doing the same stupid thing!! Stargazer99 Mar 2024 #23
Indeed. Also, I still don't buy that these polls are completely legit and not props to LymphocyteLover Mar 2024 #24
I think your problem is more with the American people. All Mixed Up Mar 2024 #25
That even 10% support TSF disgusts me maxrandb Mar 2024 #26
I think our biggest concern is that despite everything, half the country is still willing to give him a second chance. All Mixed Up Mar 2024 #27
M$M and Pollsters don't believe they'll be affected by a Benedict Donald administration ... this time. uponit7771 Mar 2024 #29
dupe uponit7771 Mar 2024 #30
K&R spanone Mar 2024 #31
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