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MessiahRp

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72. If potential hires don't have skills, employers look in the mirror...
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 03:26 AM
Nov 2012

A LOT of jobs used to spend the necessary time and energy to train workers on site. Even College Grads come out of school only having learned concepts and theory and need real world experience and you can't always force potentially talented good workers to go somewhere else for that experience because ultimately they may be offered to stay there.

The lack of on site job training is just one of the MANY ways employers have been trying to skip out on obligations to their workforce. Eliminating Pensions, cutting health insurance benefits to the bone, lower wages... it's all part of a cycle to make sure as little as possible is spent on their workers while the execs up top reap every single dollar of profit in a never ending race to show their fellow business owners who can be the greediest of the bunch.

Hell some of them don't even bother with pretenses... they use temp work agencies specifically to not pay any benefits or have any official obligation to the employee for the entire length of the not-so permanent contract. It's disgusting. If they can't screw you over here, they'll just outsource the job and there's nothing here to stop them. So much for being Patriotic Americans.

I do all the time, and recommend it highly! Lionessa Nov 2012 #1
Actually ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #47
Don't these people need a solid business plan AAO Nov 2012 #57
Not if they subscribe to the romney model ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #61
Well, then they can afford to lose it all! AAO Nov 2012 #62
Yep. 99Forever Nov 2012 #2
Everyone is like that christx30 Nov 2012 #14
I know some people just like that Populist_Prole Nov 2012 #23
... and its usually the ones who CAN AFFORD to pay ... Myrina Nov 2012 #76
Heck, they do it to teachers, so why not everyone? knitter4democracy Nov 2012 #3
I know. It's appalling ladym55 Nov 2012 #9
I was adjunct faculty in the late 1970s. mysuzuki2 Nov 2012 #43
A piece of paper is more important than the true value of the person AAO Nov 2012 #58
They have been doing that to Nurses for years.... AnneD Nov 2012 #80
Absolutely! knitter4democracy Nov 2012 #83
And when you are a Nurse.... AnneD Nov 2012 #85
I'm doing better, thank you. knitter4democracy Nov 2012 #91
These thing sort themselves out eventually.... AnneD Nov 2012 #97
I don't think nursing is a good example Mosby Nov 2012 #87
It is a great example.... AnneD Nov 2012 #90
They use that lame-ass excuse to import cheaper labor from overseas, even though the same skills Ikonoklast Nov 2012 #4
Exactly - nt dreamnightwind Nov 2012 #69
In addition, some good workers smoke weed. After the drug test, out they go. nt morningglory Nov 2012 #5
I've seen this recently. Third Doctor Nov 2012 #20
One of my ex-customers (Computer) was whining once about finding "A good Man" BlueJazz Nov 2012 #6
nursing shortage sigmasix Nov 2012 #7
i'm convinced the whole 'shortage' narrative is the first wave of an effort to HiPointDem Nov 2012 #15
Collusion rather than competition. This is what you get when you let a few big companies control Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #42
I hear you... AnneD Nov 2012 #82
K & R !!! WillyT Nov 2012 #8
It's not a skills gap, it's a wage gap. LuckyLib Nov 2012 #10
Way back in my college days rrneck Nov 2012 #11
It's not only in high tech Lydia Leftcoast Nov 2012 #12
I've seen that at my local library. Third Doctor Nov 2012 #21
The States have to raise the minimum wage. Sunlei Nov 2012 #13
The federal government is the only real solution. If left to the states, many, if not most, will Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #45
This is exactly why ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #79
WORD!! stubtoe Nov 2012 #81
Think outsourcing is anti-American, take a look at insourcing. Far more cynical, IMHO. libdem4life Nov 2012 #16
The unkindest and truest quote DonCoquixote Nov 2012 #17
They've got money for bonuses but not for paying their employees ck4829 Nov 2012 #18
Executive criminals. Just ask Hostess. Initech Nov 2012 #60
This: cloudbase Nov 2012 #19
I hope he's roasting in whatever hell exists Populist_Prole Nov 2012 #26
That's exactly the issue gollygee Nov 2012 #30
So, he could've led by lowering his salary to that of VP's in "Brazils and Koreas". SharonAnn Nov 2012 #54
so, SO true Skittles Nov 2012 #22
That's MicroSlop's Life Story triplepoint Nov 2012 #24
Why would any smart high school kid study computer science in college... TexasBushwhacker Nov 2012 #56
the guy (or gal) you replied to wants $104,000 per year from MS Mosby Nov 2012 #88
I know, and it drives me up a wall Populist_Prole Nov 2012 #25
good companies used to handmade34 Nov 2012 #27
I read someone who was hiring welders Patiod Nov 2012 #37
The perception at the top is.. Rain Mcloud Nov 2012 #28
They think of employees as a COST, not an INVESTMENT. TahitiNut Nov 2012 #29
One can alway find a job if they meet the following criteria Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2012 #31
Sadly, this has been going on for years. SheilaT Nov 2012 #32
Been saying this for years catrose Nov 2012 #33
Yes. 100% cthulu2016 Nov 2012 #34
And if you have the skills and education, you're up to your ears LiberalEsto Nov 2012 #35
Application Specific SCVDem Nov 2012 #36
I'll tell you why they won't pay.... Bozvotros Nov 2012 #38
k&r n/t RainDog Nov 2012 #39
When i was unemployed six years ago... sheshe2 Nov 2012 #40
One interview in two years of looking. Manifestor_of_Light Nov 2012 #41
K&R and posting to save the link. n/t Beartracks Nov 2012 #44
Externalizing expenses is a big part of this scam as well. Corporations lay off every dime they can Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #46
I hear this bullshit from my right wing CPA all the time. Curmudgeoness Nov 2012 #48
I fight this fight with hiring managers ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #49
This is great and I've used it in conversation. I also add that it's funny how businesses owned Lint Head Nov 2012 #50
Is there a list of those businesses here on DU? caveat_imperator Nov 2012 #64
I'm not aware of a list. It's a statement alluding to the fact that Republicans are the ones Lint Head Nov 2012 #67
I am experiencing new unreasonable demands on my reasonably priced skill-set. They are looking for patrice Nov 2012 #51
That's a very perceptive question: why it isn't WORTH their while to pay what it takes to get patrice Nov 2012 #52
An insurance broker I know complained he can't find a good office manager for $10/hour. SunSeeker Nov 2012 #53
And that is a big part of the problem laundry_queen Nov 2012 #63
Couldn't agree with you more. SunSeeker Nov 2012 #65
It doesn't matter if the job is easy Nikia Nov 2012 #84
No job keeping clients happy is easy. SunSeeker Nov 2012 #93
No matter what your field, no matter the skill-set...unionize. Chan790 Nov 2012 #55
Corporations have declared a war on workers. Initech Nov 2012 #59
Our plant starts at $21/hr with fabulous health insurance NickB79 Nov 2012 #66
THANKS, I POSTED TO FACEBOOK trueblue2007 Nov 2012 #68
Home run. blackspade Nov 2012 #70
Rec #200 Hekate Nov 2012 #71
If potential hires don't have skills, employers look in the mirror... MessiahRp Nov 2012 #72
They also don't want to train anymore davidn3600 Nov 2012 #73
Soup is good food. leeroysphitz Nov 2012 #74
K & R mac56 Nov 2012 #75
That's pretty much a "DUH!" WinkyDink Nov 2012 #77
I disagree with the concept here BlueStreak Nov 2012 #78
I agree with part 2 of your analysis texshelters Nov 2012 #86
This article says that small businesses account for 60-80% of jobs BlueStreak Nov 2012 #89
Thanks texshelters Nov 2012 #98
I've run three small businesses. JoeyT Nov 2012 #94
I hate to say, but the idea of trust-busting or smashing monopolies/oligopolies is dead on arrival. Selatius Nov 2012 #95
Yes, that may be true texshelters Nov 2012 #99
exactly bluescribbler Nov 2012 #92
K&R woo me with science Nov 2012 #96
I've been saying that for 30 years PD Turk Nov 2012 #100
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