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a geek named Bob

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43. yet those are nations that self identify as socialist...

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 01:52 PM

Nov 2012

Look, if socialism is so great... point out five countries with higher standards of living.

"Any system that uses" sounds perilously close to using the "one drop rule" that we're supposed to shun (Dred Scott and all that...)

If the world's power elites have the power to disrupt any and all "egalitarian people's movement,"* then I submit that there will never be a pure socialist system.

*All of the socialist systems that have been mentioned sound like little more than glorifying mobs.

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Bad news for those wanting revolution. [View all] JNelson6563 Nov 2012 OP

JNelson6563, I think there's a flip side to that question... a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #1

Agreed! JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #2

Thank you for the compliment! a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #4

When has "pure" socialism ever been tried correctly? libtodeath Nov 2012 #3

What is "pure" socialism? Bradical79 Nov 2012 #5

I wasnt the one using the phrase just copying it libtodeath Nov 2012 #8

Oy... a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #6

And capitalisim has been so wonderful for the 99% of us. libtodeath Nov 2012 #9

Capitalism seems to work for the Social Democracies... a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #11

Nonsense,you were the one who was trashing an economic system without acknowledging libtodeath Nov 2012 #17

actually... a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #40

Show me a capitalist system that has not enriched a few and enslaved the rest libtodeath Nov 2012 #54

enslaved??? a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #60

Yes for all practical purposes enslaved libtodeath Nov 2012 #63

playing "it's the same as" is a mug's game a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #78

And you are spreading rw points more then progressive ideals libtodeath Nov 2012 #86

so it's socialism or right winger? a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #95

Now who is clutching at strawmen libtodeath Nov 2012 #97

sigh... a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #98

Seems an odd statement given your postings totally throwing socialism aside from the start libtodeath Nov 2012 #102

I've yet to meet any socialists that only want to try a limited experiment with only a few people, a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #106

You obviously don't have any idea of what slavery is mythology Nov 2012 #119

Your list appears to be meaningless PETRUS Nov 2012 #31

yet those are nations that self identify as socialist... a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #43

Thoughts PETRUS Nov 2012 #72

The One Drop rule was a court decision that allowed a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #84

Yeah, I know. PETRUS Nov 2012 #104

thoughts on your thoughts a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #105

Cool. What are you working on? PETRUS Nov 2012 #107

a few ideas... a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #108

Why rafts? PETRUS Nov 2012 #109

A few reasons a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #110

thank you libtodeath Nov 2012 #58

You bet! PETRUS Nov 2012 #81

"pure" socialism would be just as bad as "pure" capitalism. BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #33

The Nordic social democracies seem to work... a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #46

one MAJOR difference between us and them... BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #50

hmmm... a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #56

i'm saying that the nordic countries don't have to deal with internal racism... BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #62

I'd redirect that a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #77

and those "others" tend to be people of another race/culture... BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #79

I don't think European societies are racially homogenous any more! LongTomH Nov 2012 #59

the nordic countries are. BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #66

Yet another blame-the-Working-Class thread leftstreet Nov 2012 #7

Whatever. JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #10

So you'd rather go to the movies than get a physical? leftstreet Nov 2012 #13

I don't do either of those things. JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #20

But your OP was about lazy irresponsible people leftstreet Nov 2012 #22

It was about content people. JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #24

Work all that into an OP. Maybe you'll start a revolution leftstreet Nov 2012 #25

What a silly mistake! Thank you! JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #30

If there's anyone out there even close to revolution, it's the teabaggers... Silent3 Nov 2012 #12

Good points. JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #26

Thank you... 99Forever Nov 2012 #14

cheap shot... a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #15

As am I. 99Forever Nov 2012 #18

You're saying you're cheap? a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #48

A question. 99Forever Nov 2012 #61

WARNING L*O*N*G* POST a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #75

Predictable, huh. woo me with science Nov 2012 #16

Aren't you glad... 99Forever Nov 2012 #19

Actually I'm a woman JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #21

Maybe you should work on your own... 99Forever Nov 2012 #47

Most want the same thing. JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #70

Isn't what I was saying? 99Forever Nov 2012 #74

I don't believe I offered a plan. JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #85

You do realize the French Revolution nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #27

For those not paying attention... 2naSalit Nov 2012 #36

I am the wrong target nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #38

Actually 2naSalit Nov 2012 #42

No problem. nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #45

I'd rather see the rich deprived. JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #23

You are correct nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #28

Good point! JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #53

The revolution is already far along in process. Things are going extremely well. Zorra Nov 2012 #29

I wouldn't stop it. JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #34

I kind of didn't think you would. Zorra Nov 2012 #37

That's exactly what I've been doing for years now... 2naSalit Nov 2012 #39

"Effective marketing" AlexSatan Nov 2012 #32

Effective in that JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #35

Thank you for this OP 2naSalit Nov 2012 #41

Thanks for the kind words! JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #49

I thought that 2naSalit Nov 2012 #64

Wow! Good luck! JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #65

Thanks, 2naSalit Nov 2012 #73

In reality AlexSatan Nov 2012 #100

The Consumer Culture Is The Primary Driver of Income Inequality Much More So Than Tax Cuts Yavin4 Nov 2012 #44

Wish I could rec your post! JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #51

Absolutely right Savannahmann Nov 2012 #52

They Also Have Strong Labor Unions and Work Less Hours Than People in Greece!! Yavin4 Nov 2012 #89

Wrong. Profit is the primary driver of $1 an hour labor leftstreet Nov 2012 #57

Disagree. People See Themselves As Consumers before anything else Yavin4 Nov 2012 #91

so true, so sad Carolina Nov 2012 #55

I hear tell that carrying pictures of Chairman Mao can have a deleterious effect on one's sex life. Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #67

That's what they say! JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #68

LOL indeed I've heard that too! limpyhobbler Nov 2012 #80

I am tired of hearing this same line. lalalu Nov 2012 #69

Not sure where to begin... JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #93

Try again lalalu Nov 2012 #99

Do continue. JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #112

Rugged individualists who are proud of attending public schools? lalalu Nov 2012 #113

WHOA Skittles Nov 2012 #101

That is what you don't get and probably never will lalalu Nov 2012 #114

OMG!!! Skittles Nov 2012 #117

You're leaving? a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #118

naw - just deciding not to waste any more time Skittles Nov 2012 #121

Bye lalalu Nov 2012 #120

I'm not sure I understand the point of this thread. There does not seem coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #71

It's a perspective thing. JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #92

What bad news? Am I being too literal minded? - n/t coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #103

Why do you.... NCTraveler Nov 2012 #76

Oh my. You couldn't be more wrong. JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #88

So she makes poor choices in every area of her life... NCTraveler Nov 2012 #123

She told me JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #124

Keeps evolving. NCTraveler Nov 2012 #125

I would like to recommend you this David Harvey video. limpyhobbler Nov 2012 #82

K&R ChazII Nov 2012 #83

That we are even discussing revolution reveals that it is already occurring. Fire Walk With Me Nov 2012 #87

So I've been told upthread. JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #90

I don't want chaos or fighting in the streets ala' Greece, etc. I'm too old and am disabled. Fire Walk With Me Nov 2012 #94

I hadn't gotten that impression from you. JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #96

Remember that we've just seen a strike against Walmart. Fire Walk With Me Nov 2012 #115

Yep, you're right about that Julie.. kentuck Nov 2012 #111

It sure seems that way, doesn't it? JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #116

Interesting read. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #122