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In reply to the discussion: Of bears and men: How big does a risk have to be before you "have to" walk around scared? [View all]MorbidButterflyTat
(2,501 posts)298. What is the point of this?
You are blatantly and insensitively repeatedly ignoring what women are telling you. WHY?
You are not a woman. You do not have the right to judge women. You do not have the right to tell us how we feel, or how we should feel; our reasons and motivations are none of your business or concern.
I think you like the attention, and being deliberately contrary for shits and giggles.
"I don't want to seem callous about the fear that many women experience."
That is exactly what you are doing. Repeatedly.
I will say this: I would absolutely choose a bear, any bear, over your arrogant obnoxiousness.
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Of bears and men: How big does a risk have to be before you "have to" walk around scared? [View all]
Silent3
May 2024
OP
Don't forget that even cloistered nuns interact with a priest in a confessional.
wnylib
May 2024
#109
There's no animosity here, just wondering how much women are self-terrifying themselves...
Silent3
May 2024
#10
"On average, there are 463,634 victims (age 12 or older) of rape and sexual assault each year in the United States."
viva la
May 2024
#94
Statistics also fall short of reality. If you don't know that yet, it's time you learned.
wnylib
May 2024
#170
I remember when a man-friend explained to me that menstrual cramps came from being anxious---
viva la
May 2024
#126
Dude. As a man, I suggest you stop. Risk is 1:1 for women who are victimized.
Caliman73
May 2024
#286
You are mansplaining, not being "empathetic. " As you're a DUer since the beginning, I expect more of you.
Hekate
May 2024
#62
I'm bringing up a tricky topic that I know a lot of people would steer clear of, not "mansplaining"
Silent3
May 2024
#66
Why don't you make a new post about how black men should stop exaggerating the risks
Crunchy Frog
May 2024
#148
If a black man were choosing, say, being in a locked room with a hungry lion rather than an average cop...
Silent3
May 2024
#174
You never said anything in your previous posts about being locked in a room with a hungry bear or lion.
Crunchy Frog
May 2024
#220
Actual bears can usually be scared off. When hiking in Glacier Park a few years ago
Ocelot II
May 2024
#264
If you're not female, your real world risks are not the same as a woman's real world experiences
wnylib
May 2024
#111
I wonder about the obsession with bears. Mythology about women marrying bears?
betsuni
May 2024
#215
There was a bestseller in the 70s about a woman moving out to the woods and having an affair with a bear
AZSkiffyGeek
May 2024
#308
But ... but ... but ... STATISTICS AND BEARS! We're not only getting worked up about nothing, we're stupid too!
betsuni
May 2024
#205
I'm trying to compare real risk vs. what people fear, whatever the odds might be.
Silent3
May 2024
#13
Okay, for the lulz, let me point out that we don't usually let bears on the subway.
viva la
May 2024
#158
Women are routinely harassed, raped, and/or killed. What do you want? Prurient details? Hm?
Hekate
May 2024
#47
My OP clearly makes in plain I'm talking about the "degree to which women reasonably feel unsafe"
Silent3
May 2024
#106
What makes you think you know anything about the degree to which women feel unsafe?
Scrivener7
May 2024
#131
So you've heard women talk about feeling unsafe and you figured you'd school all of us about
Scrivener7
May 2024
#137
So, what's the point of discussing anything with someone who takes that attitude?
Silent3
May 2024
#156
You might want to just stop with this thread and just fucking listen.
Cuthbert Allgood
May 2024
#265
So this is you "talking us down?" Seriously dude, I think you don't understand just
Scrivener7
May 2024
#35
The things on which you have based this whole discussion on, the man vs. bear discussion and the
Scrivener7
May 2024
#115
"You are the one who made the irrational assumption that women's use of precautions amount to a 'self-torment'"
Silent3
May 2024
#118
Nope. It's not. It's you making the irrational assumption that the precautions women take
Scrivener7
May 2024
#122
Nope. I'm not. The man vs. bear discussion is about choosing a lesser danger. The
Scrivener7
May 2024
#130
Do you understand that this is a cruel and disgusting comment to make to a victim
Scrivener7
May 2024
#55
Previous to this thread, I was one of the few who said the man, but now I want to make a caveat: not the OP.
Scrivener7
May 2024
#254
What percent of women have been assaulted by a man at some point in their life?
RockRaven
May 2024
#7
The question is assault out of the blue in the kind of situation the bear/man thing is about. n/t
Silent3
May 2024
#14
Thank you for being one of the few women who doesn't see my post itself as an attack
Silent3
May 2024
#17
I don't think either of us has real stats here... no sure where I'd even look for them
Silent3
May 2024
#21
Oh, but he's "talking us down" from our irrational "self-torment" doncha know?
Scrivener7
May 2024
#61
Men just don't know the fear because they feel reasonably safe everywhere they go.
Diamond_Dog
May 2024
#18
And let's just realize that someone who thinks this way on a jury-- or a judge at the trial
viva la
May 2024
#103
All it takes is that one time being there in that place, that time when the opportunity presents itself to a predator.
betsuni
May 2024
#155
But I also have to imagine how likely it is that a foot-taller man is going to grab me
Silent3
May 2024
#22
The question going around the internet is about meeting a bear vs. meeting a man while alone in the woods
Silent3
May 2024
#38
Is there a certain level of assault by strangers in one's home, on a campus, and/or in a public place
Sparkly
May 2024
#57
The statistics I've seen say that one in five women will be raped at some point in their lives.
thucythucy
May 2024
#40
Yes, "free range parenting" is exactly the kind of analogy that fits the kind of point I'm trying to make n/t
Silent3
May 2024
#91
LOL! The level of your projection is hilarious. Again, I'm going to guess you don't see the irony in this.
Scrivener7
May 2024
#213
Viva, check that post again. It's me replying to the mansplainer, not to you.
Scrivener7
May 2024
#250
I don't know. We might be past that. We've already been told that he is just
Scrivener7
May 2024
#80
Not assiduously avoiding, just took that as a rhetorical question, plus having a lot of posts to respond to
Silent3
May 2024
#85
So you did take precautions against encountering people who could do damage to you.
Scrivener7
May 2024
#90
Women don't "walk around scared"- we are aware of our surroundings and potential predators at every moment
ms liberty
May 2024
#86
I think you've mansplained enough. If you're still this clueless now, you're never gonna get it.
ms liberty
May 2024
#235
I have done all those things, and I'm a guy. Only a few times, but I have done them. My wife has too, and says her
Doodley
May 2024
#97
The fear does not kick in until we're confronted with the threat. Not before.
ecstatic
May 2024
#125
Means women are emotional and stupid and "demonize men" for no reason, men are rational and think about STATISTICS.
betsuni
May 2024
#217
Why would anyone get defensive about women's experiences? Women "get all worked up about" "demonizing men"?
betsuni
May 2024
#175
The sad reality is that men and women inhabit the same spaces very differently.
Jedi Guy
May 2024
#180
Chance of being injured by a bear is 1 in 2.1 million. Chance of a woman being sexually assaulted is 1 in 4.
meadowlander
May 2024
#182
The bear/man choice is about a single situation in which you will encounter one or the other
Silent3
May 2024
#183
The "absurd hypothetical" isn't my absurd hypothetical. It's been making the rounds of the internet.
Silent3
May 2024
#186
Oh, well if it's been going around the internet, then I guess we have to engage with it seriously.
meadowlander
May 2024
#199
Absolutely! Argument reponere Meme is enshrined in most Citical Thought text books (3rd editions and up)
Torchlight
May 2024
#322
Chance of being sexually assaulted by a bear is also far less than that of being mauled by a man.
PeaceWave
May 2024
#297
Being in an airplane or car crash or a fire is horrible, but it's death. Being raped or murdered is torture
betsuni
May 2024
#257
Great discussion. Do you use a purse seine or a drift net to catch those bears?
Hekate
May 2024
#279
I realized early on that what he really wants is prurient details. I suggest people stop giving them to him....
Hekate
May 2024
#310
The male human animal or the animal type genus Ursus? The human male. Easier to gut. If necessary, of course.
Solly Mack
May 2024
#309
The irony here is that a mountain lion screaming sounds very much like a woman in danger.
PeaceWave
May 2024
#331