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In reply to the discussion: Of bears and men: How big does a risk have to be before you "have to" walk around scared? [View all]Torchlight
(4,126 posts)300. Such orthodoxy.
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Of bears and men: How big does a risk have to be before you "have to" walk around scared? [View all]
Silent3
May 2024
OP
Don't forget that even cloistered nuns interact with a priest in a confessional.
wnylib
May 2024
#109
There's no animosity here, just wondering how much women are self-terrifying themselves...
Silent3
May 2024
#10
"On average, there are 463,634 victims (age 12 or older) of rape and sexual assault each year in the United States."
viva la
May 2024
#94
Statistics also fall short of reality. If you don't know that yet, it's time you learned.
wnylib
May 2024
#170
I remember when a man-friend explained to me that menstrual cramps came from being anxious---
viva la
May 2024
#126
Dude. As a man, I suggest you stop. Risk is 1:1 for women who are victimized.
Caliman73
May 2024
#286
You are mansplaining, not being "empathetic. " As you're a DUer since the beginning, I expect more of you.
Hekate
May 2024
#62
I'm bringing up a tricky topic that I know a lot of people would steer clear of, not "mansplaining"
Silent3
May 2024
#66
Why don't you make a new post about how black men should stop exaggerating the risks
Crunchy Frog
May 2024
#148
If a black man were choosing, say, being in a locked room with a hungry lion rather than an average cop...
Silent3
May 2024
#174
You never said anything in your previous posts about being locked in a room with a hungry bear or lion.
Crunchy Frog
May 2024
#220
Actual bears can usually be scared off. When hiking in Glacier Park a few years ago
Ocelot II
May 2024
#264
If you're not female, your real world risks are not the same as a woman's real world experiences
wnylib
May 2024
#111
I wonder about the obsession with bears. Mythology about women marrying bears?
betsuni
May 2024
#215
There was a bestseller in the 70s about a woman moving out to the woods and having an affair with a bear
AZSkiffyGeek
May 2024
#308
But ... but ... but ... STATISTICS AND BEARS! We're not only getting worked up about nothing, we're stupid too!
betsuni
May 2024
#205
I'm trying to compare real risk vs. what people fear, whatever the odds might be.
Silent3
May 2024
#13
Okay, for the lulz, let me point out that we don't usually let bears on the subway.
viva la
May 2024
#158
Women are routinely harassed, raped, and/or killed. What do you want? Prurient details? Hm?
Hekate
May 2024
#47
My OP clearly makes in plain I'm talking about the "degree to which women reasonably feel unsafe"
Silent3
May 2024
#106
What makes you think you know anything about the degree to which women feel unsafe?
Scrivener7
May 2024
#131
So you've heard women talk about feeling unsafe and you figured you'd school all of us about
Scrivener7
May 2024
#137
So, what's the point of discussing anything with someone who takes that attitude?
Silent3
May 2024
#156
You might want to just stop with this thread and just fucking listen.
Cuthbert Allgood
May 2024
#265
So this is you "talking us down?" Seriously dude, I think you don't understand just
Scrivener7
May 2024
#35
The things on which you have based this whole discussion on, the man vs. bear discussion and the
Scrivener7
May 2024
#115
"You are the one who made the irrational assumption that women's use of precautions amount to a 'self-torment'"
Silent3
May 2024
#118
Nope. It's not. It's you making the irrational assumption that the precautions women take
Scrivener7
May 2024
#122
Nope. I'm not. The man vs. bear discussion is about choosing a lesser danger. The
Scrivener7
May 2024
#130
Do you understand that this is a cruel and disgusting comment to make to a victim
Scrivener7
May 2024
#55
Previous to this thread, I was one of the few who said the man, but now I want to make a caveat: not the OP.
Scrivener7
May 2024
#254
What percent of women have been assaulted by a man at some point in their life?
RockRaven
May 2024
#7
The question is assault out of the blue in the kind of situation the bear/man thing is about. n/t
Silent3
May 2024
#14
Thank you for being one of the few women who doesn't see my post itself as an attack
Silent3
May 2024
#17
I don't think either of us has real stats here... no sure where I'd even look for them
Silent3
May 2024
#21
Oh, but he's "talking us down" from our irrational "self-torment" doncha know?
Scrivener7
May 2024
#61
Men just don't know the fear because they feel reasonably safe everywhere they go.
Diamond_Dog
May 2024
#18
And let's just realize that someone who thinks this way on a jury-- or a judge at the trial
viva la
May 2024
#103
All it takes is that one time being there in that place, that time when the opportunity presents itself to a predator.
betsuni
May 2024
#155
But I also have to imagine how likely it is that a foot-taller man is going to grab me
Silent3
May 2024
#22
The question going around the internet is about meeting a bear vs. meeting a man while alone in the woods
Silent3
May 2024
#38
Is there a certain level of assault by strangers in one's home, on a campus, and/or in a public place
Sparkly
May 2024
#57
The statistics I've seen say that one in five women will be raped at some point in their lives.
thucythucy
May 2024
#40
Yes, "free range parenting" is exactly the kind of analogy that fits the kind of point I'm trying to make n/t
Silent3
May 2024
#91
LOL! The level of your projection is hilarious. Again, I'm going to guess you don't see the irony in this.
Scrivener7
May 2024
#213
Viva, check that post again. It's me replying to the mansplainer, not to you.
Scrivener7
May 2024
#250
I don't know. We might be past that. We've already been told that he is just
Scrivener7
May 2024
#80
Not assiduously avoiding, just took that as a rhetorical question, plus having a lot of posts to respond to
Silent3
May 2024
#85
So you did take precautions against encountering people who could do damage to you.
Scrivener7
May 2024
#90
Women don't "walk around scared"- we are aware of our surroundings and potential predators at every moment
ms liberty
May 2024
#86
I think you've mansplained enough. If you're still this clueless now, you're never gonna get it.
ms liberty
May 2024
#235
I have done all those things, and I'm a guy. Only a few times, but I have done them. My wife has too, and says her
Doodley
May 2024
#97
The fear does not kick in until we're confronted with the threat. Not before.
ecstatic
May 2024
#125
Means women are emotional and stupid and "demonize men" for no reason, men are rational and think about STATISTICS.
betsuni
May 2024
#217
Why would anyone get defensive about women's experiences? Women "get all worked up about" "demonizing men"?
betsuni
May 2024
#175
The sad reality is that men and women inhabit the same spaces very differently.
Jedi Guy
May 2024
#180
Chance of being injured by a bear is 1 in 2.1 million. Chance of a woman being sexually assaulted is 1 in 4.
meadowlander
May 2024
#182
The bear/man choice is about a single situation in which you will encounter one or the other
Silent3
May 2024
#183
The "absurd hypothetical" isn't my absurd hypothetical. It's been making the rounds of the internet.
Silent3
May 2024
#186
Oh, well if it's been going around the internet, then I guess we have to engage with it seriously.
meadowlander
May 2024
#199
Absolutely! Argument reponere Meme is enshrined in most Citical Thought text books (3rd editions and up)
Torchlight
May 2024
#322
Chance of being sexually assaulted by a bear is also far less than that of being mauled by a man.
PeaceWave
May 2024
#297
Being in an airplane or car crash or a fire is horrible, but it's death. Being raped or murdered is torture
betsuni
May 2024
#257
Great discussion. Do you use a purse seine or a drift net to catch those bears?
Hekate
May 2024
#279
I realized early on that what he really wants is prurient details. I suggest people stop giving them to him....
Hekate
May 2024
#310
The male human animal or the animal type genus Ursus? The human male. Easier to gut. If necessary, of course.
Solly Mack
May 2024
#309
The irony here is that a mountain lion screaming sounds very much like a woman in danger.
PeaceWave
May 2024
#331