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Bluesaph

(925 posts) Fri Jun 14, 2024, 05:40 PM Jun 2024

The gun deaths IS THE POINT [View all]

People go to great lengths to sidestep the fact that our culture IS VIOLENT!

Half of the country doesn’t care how many kids die in schools. Half of the country doesn’t care if we fear being killed at a concert or a movie theater or walking to the park!

The SCROTUS decision today makes it clear: Americans are a violent people. WE CAME INTO BEING IN VIOLENCE AND WE WILL DIE IN VIOLENCE! We have a culture of violence and death. “Freedom” is the bait. Violence is the switch! How free are we, really, when we can’t send our kids to school in peace?

We should all be ashamed!

We allowed Trump to win! We knew what they would do and still many refused to vote for Hillary. Some Bernie Bros. even voted for Trump!

I’m disgusted! And I’m out of here. Making my plans and bailing. This place sucks!

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The gun deaths IS THE POINT [View all] Bluesaph Jun 2024 OP

I think it's worse than that. SarahD Jun 2024 #1

Hmm, I don't remember seeing this in the decision: yagotme Jun 2024 #3

It's my own conclusion. SarahD Jun 2024 #4

Are you sure? yagotme Jun 2024 #6

that's because some tend to ignore any and all facts that don't support the fairy tales they're pushing. canuckledragger Jun 2024 #16

So, since you are the keeper of the facts, lay some on me. yagotme Jun 2024 #19

yes, it's certainly obvious that someone is trying to derail a meaningfull discussion here. canuckledragger Jun 2024 #21

Why does there need to be more than one? EarlG Jun 2024 #74

If we banned an item every time it was used in a mass killing, we would have nothing. yagotme Jun 2024 #75

Thought experiment for you, on gun ownership in general EarlG Jun 2024 #82

As a thought experiment, (as both things are impossible), here's my take: yagotme Jun 2024 #85

Thanks for the reply EarlG Jun 2024 #97

You're welcome. Nice to have a normal discourse for once. yagotme Jun 2024 #100

Pretty sure. SarahD Jun 2024 #18

Bump stocks are the issue of the day. yagotme Jun 2024 #23

According to that logic SarahD Jun 2024 #27

The flaw in that logic is, the installation of a full auto switch in a Glock, yagotme Jun 2024 #38

If the conversion device was made before 1986 and you could thatdemguy Jun 2024 #40

The law in question does not allow that Zeitghost Jun 2024 #47

The 2nd is not above the 1st! Bluesaph Jun 2024 #66

Your title and your first sentence don't jibe. yagotme Jun 2024 #72

This seems to not recognize the future oldmanlynn Jun 2024 #24

Magazines aren't covered, right? Ban all magazines? They're not firearms, after all... yagotme Jun 2024 #29

Semantics much? Bluesaph Jun 2024 #67

"Explain yourself" yagotme Jun 2024 #73

So ... as it's NOT a gun ... Bluesaph Jun 2024 #78

Deer hunters are limited, by law, as to how many rounds they can carry in the weapon. yagotme Jun 2024 #89

It will be used to kill. That's its purpose. It's not a toy. Bluesaph Jun 2024 #99

Thousands were made. Some 3-D printed. yagotme Jun 2024 #101

You need some better arguments. Bluesaph Jun 2024 #102

I agree. yagotme Jun 2024 #103

They were outlawed after that once incidence. Bluesaph Jun 2024 #104

The ATF looked at them more than once before Vegas, and declared them legal. yagotme Jun 2024 #105

Now you're changing the argument. Bluesaph Jun 2024 #106

No, I'm stating factual history. yagotme Jun 2024 #107

I'm all for personal liberty too. But not on stupid toys. Bluesaph Jun 2024 #108

Bump stocks are NOT weapons. It's the weapon that fires. yagotme Jun 2024 #109

Good news. SarahD Jun 2024 #50

Yes, as I understand the SC ruling, if Congress passes legislation banning them it would. MichMan Jun 2024 #51

Bump stocks are for target practice and wasting ammo Melon Jun 2024 #58

Don't you think that once in Las Vegas was enough? LuckyCharms Jun 2024 #79

One incident. yagotme Jun 2024 #86

You are very hard over on this issue. LuckyCharms Jun 2024 #88

USSC made a ruling. I looked at the law, have knowledge about how bump stocks work, yagotme Jun 2024 #91

That's nice. n/t LuckyCharms Jun 2024 #92

Thank you. yagotme Jun 2024 #93

You wouldn't be happy if you knew what I am thinking. n/t LuckyCharms Jun 2024 #94

Now, now, let's be nice. yagotme Jun 2024 #95

Of course. n/t LuckyCharms Jun 2024 #96

Umm, it's a consequence of the decision Dave says Jun 2024 #11

She said that? Really? I'd like to read that... nt yagotme Jun 2024 #12

Disrespect. Kingofalldems Jun 2024 #13

Who? What? Where? yagotme Jun 2024 #14

You gave a smart aleck answer to the poster. Kingofalldems Jun 2024 #17

Stated I hadn't viewed the statement in question. yagotme Jun 2024 #20

someone obviously CAN'T handle having their derailment attempts questioned! canuckledragger Jun 2024 #22

Talking about OP subject equals derailment. yagotme Jun 2024 #25

no, pushing propaganda, hyperbole and lies equals derailment. canuckledragger Jun 2024 #30

I'll have to remember that when someone posts something not factual here. yagotme Jun 2024 #41

then try to remeber it for your next post if you don't want to look silly. canuckledragger Jun 2024 #42

Yes, when I reply to a silly post from now on, I'll try not to look silly. yagotme Jun 2024 #44

then try telling the truth. canuckledragger Jun 2024 #45

I'd ask to cite where I lied, but I already know what you're going to say... nt yagotme Jun 2024 #49

And we know that someone will gaslight and lie regardless. canuckledragger Jun 2024 #56

Well spotted, canuckledragger Hekate Jun 2024 #59

Yes, someone has been busy following me around the board. yagotme Jun 2024 #71

Yes, someone has been running wild pushing a lot of propaganda and bad-faith arguments. canuckledragger Jun 2024 #81

Yup, and I counter that propaganda as best I can. yagotme Jun 2024 #84

and when questioned, some just double down on the lies and propaganda. canuckledragger Jun 2024 #87

I know what you mean. I've seen that a lot lately. yagotme Jun 2024 #90

2d time you've called me a liar. yagotme Jun 2024 #70

Someone thinks it's all about them. canuckledragger Jun 2024 #80

When you are replying to me, and infer/directly say I'm lying, well, I guess that DOES make it about me. yagotme Jun 2024 #83

How about this: Gun violence is the leading cause of death for American children. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #28

You say this every time the Supreme Court issues a decision TexasDem69 Jun 2024 #32

How many children are killed by bump stocks yearly? Is there even a number, other that Las Vegas? yagotme Jun 2024 #39

gun violence apologists are pathetic. canuckledragger Jun 2024 #43

Name calling now. You're really sinking low. yagotme Jun 2024 #46

boy, gun violence apologists get angry when their propaganda and gaslighting are called out! canuckledragger Jun 2024 #55

They are very sensitive people, after all Hekate Jun 2024 #61

yes, some tend to alert on others here when their comments are disputed. canuckledragger Jun 2024 #65

I have NEVER alerted on a post here. I have been tempted, though. yagotme Jun 2024 #68

It's my understanding that this is a civil discussion board. yagotme Jun 2024 #69

It's not the job of the courts Zeitghost Jun 2024 #48

gun humpers seem to love calling themselves PRO-LIFE Skittles Jun 2024 #2

I'm having a flashback... Hekate Jun 2024 #63

There are a lot of psychopaths I_UndergroundPanther Jun 2024 #5

And the gunners are out trolling all over GD Kingofalldems Jun 2024 #7

well of course Skittles Jun 2024 #8

Where has anyone said it was a "great" decision? TexasDem69 Jun 2024 #33

Don't have to say it Kingofalldems Jun 2024 #35

So zero evidence to support your argument TexasDem69 Jun 2024 #36

Why Putin subverted the NRA usonian Jun 2024 #9

Yup. If we can. onecaliberal Jun 2024 #10

It's human sacrifice that validates the sacred importance Gaugamela Jun 2024 #15

The US regularly kills its citizens to appease the gun gods. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #26

Gun deaths happen because the GOP and Movement applegrove Jun 2024 #31

Do you really believe this? TexasDem69 Jun 2024 #34

I'm talking about the people behind the people who don't want reasonable gun regulation. applegrove Jun 2024 #37

And the vast majority of gun deaths are caused by handguns MichMan Jun 2024 #52

But it would stop an event, where 60 people died, 500 injured, applegrove Jun 2024 #53

Most likely it wouldn't have stopped the event Kaleva Jun 2024 #54

But the rate of fire during the Vegas shooting was much greater than applegrove Jun 2024 #57

Again, only a miniscule percentage of gun deaths can be attributed to either AR15 or bump stops MichMan Jun 2024 #64

I guess we are just helpless beings and there is nothing that can be done Hekate Jun 2024 #62

Sure. Lock up lawbreakers. yagotme Jun 2024 #77

Our national gun fetish is a self-inflicted form of domestic terrorism Hekate Jun 2024 #60

They can't win on the strength of their ideas C_U_L8R Jun 2024 #76

Yep, we're violent, with our black clothes and our grey cars. Iggo Jun 2024 #98