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joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
27. I think you can consider his job excellent if you look at it a specific way.
Fri Jan 20, 2012, 01:57 AM
Jan 2012

Of course, this might be dismissed, but as a President Obama has been extremely consistent. This is a man who campaigned as a hawk against the Taliban, had massive liberal support (perhaps wearing rose colored glasses), who went on to actually go after the Taliban, and then gets shit for it from liberals.

In that vein, he's hardly an excellent liberal.

But as a President who campaigned and did what he said he'd do?

Unquestionably.

Being compelled to vote for the lesser of two evils is surely a horrible thing, but it's a necessity when you're a minority and you want other minorities to benefit from the relationship. Many who complain about this dynamic don't appreciate that many minorities in our society have, for a very long time, had to deal with the hand that the society has handed them. Look at payday loan sharks, the poor and downtrodden are not stupid, they know that the 300% interest on a loan is completely unfair and bullshit, but they have to go with it, because a bank or even a credit union is not going to give them the loan that they need to get their light bill paid or whatever. Now, this is actually a more evil, in this case, and it illustrates I think that while we complain about the lesser of evils dynamic, some people don't even have that choice. This is why I believe the "lesser of two evils" is itself intrinsically a privileged position to have.

I have no problem with that because as a "generic white male" as another poster put it (JoePhilly I think), I am privileged. I have no illusions about that. And it is a lesser of two evils vote for me. I've never had to contend with the bigger evil to get along in life.

It's as basic as that, I feel the same way. Kurmudgeon Jan 2012 #1
What a terrible reason to do anything. Fearless Jan 2012 #2
I thinks it a truly American way to view national politics.... WCGreen Jan 2012 #4
Same here. Elwood P Dowd Jan 2012 #8
why do we breathe? Tiggeroshii Jan 2012 #9
We breathe because it removes Fearless Jan 2012 #23
...and we'd cease to live, meaning that breathing is the only option we have. Tiggeroshii Jan 2012 #24
It is impossible to choose not to breathe. Fearless Jan 2012 #25
No. It isn't. Literally. uppityperson Jan 2012 #30
Ahh I was taking breathing in a literal sense. Gotcha. Fearless Jan 2012 #36
I don't understand jsmirman Jan 2012 #26
The lesser of two evils is always a disappointing decision to make IMO. Fearless Jan 2012 #29
It may be disappointing jsmirman Jan 2012 #32
To each their own I suppose. Fearless Jan 2012 #35
Rather insubstantial and irrelevant insights LanternWaste Jan 2012 #37
I don't believe I owe you anything. Fearless Jan 2012 #38
k and r DonCoquixote Jan 2012 #3
I agree. nevergiveup Jan 2012 #5
All the alternatives are options for me, really. I'm fine either way. joshcryer Jan 2012 #6
Bill Clinton wasn't normal??? center rising Jan 2012 #7
He had large appetites and also was craving for feelings of wanting to be loved... WCGreen Jan 2012 #10
No he wasn't compared to Obama. n/t Cleita Jan 2012 #12
Oh, you had better believe it. Cleita Jan 2012 #11
there is no alternative spanone Jan 2012 #13
I feel the same way. roody Jan 2012 #14
I was the treasurer for the Green Party here in Cuyahoga County WCGreen Jan 2012 #16
Agreed. ClassWarrior Jan 2012 #15
The alternative is horrifying! Lugnut Jan 2012 #17
There are two ways to view "warts and all" cthulu2016 Jan 2012 #18
I think he feels as if he is doing the best he can given all the crap that has WCGreen Jan 2012 #19
I think it's telling that CakeGrrl Jan 2012 #21
He wasn't my first choice and I was never caught up in the Obamamania.... WCGreen Jan 2012 #22
I think you can consider his job excellent if you look at it a specific way. joshcryer Jan 2012 #27
he is the most normal person to sit in the Oval Office since 1980... JDPriestly Jan 2012 #20
The four alternatives we saw debating in SC tonight definitely aren't acceptable options. highplainsdem Jan 2012 #28
Fascist if we do, fascist if we don't? (nt) (nr) T S Justly Jan 2012 #31
But ours is a kinder, gentler fascism, truly. SammyWinstonJack Jan 2012 #39
I don't give a damn about the "normal" angle at all. Willy Wonka TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #33
What I meant by that comment was he never let his outsized ego take control of WCGreen Jan 2012 #34
Clinton's actual biggest problem was embracing absurd economic policy. Ironically, the source TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #40
The first OpEd Piece I ever wrote for the Cleveland Plain Dealer was against WCGreen Jan 2012 #41
This is the advantage of purchasing both parties. woo me with science Jan 2012 #42
Well, with BILLIONS of dollars being injected into the system... WCGreen Jan 2012 #43
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