may be feeling pressure in having the sex. hence, the ethusiasm. as much want as the guy. a clear picture that it is mutual. actually, it works for the guy, too. they may feel pressure, too. and they may feel less than enthusiastic, too. no more for them than for a girl.

i dont know how you can get, that she says no and there can be an interpretation of enthusiasm. no pretty much squelches the enthusiasm meter.

i want it clear to my boys to only have sex when it is wanted in a two way manner.