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In reply to the discussion: JD Vance Said We Just Need To Reframe The Idea Of Forcing Women To Stay Pregnant [View all]LetMyPeopleVote
(151,757 posts)67. Why JD Vance's record on abortion rights matters in 2024 race
If Donald Trump didn't want a running mate who was too extreme on abortion rights, he really shouldn't have tapped the senator from Ohio for the Republican ticket.
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To be sure, too staunch is a matter of perspective, but if the presumptive GOP nominee tapped Sen. JD Vance for the ticket assuming that his views on reproductive rights would seem mainstream, Trump made a poor choice.
Take this Washington Post report, for example.
Unfortunately for the Republican ticket, this is just one of many relevant data points.
While Trump has avoided endorsing a national abortion ban, for example, CNN reported that Vance, during his Senate candidacy, said, I certainly would like abortion to be illegal nationally.
Vance, the year before reaching Capitol Hill, said at the time, Im sympathetic to the view that like, okay, look here, heres a situation lets say Roe vs. Wade is overruled. Ohio bans abortion, in 2022 or lets say 2024. And then, you know, every day George Soros sends a 747 to Columbus to load up disproportionately Black women to get them to go have abortions in California. And of course, the left will celebrate this as a victory for diversity uh, thats kind of creepy......
And did I mention that Vance publicly endorsed his home states six-week abortion ban, which does not include exceptions for rape or incest? Because he did that, too.
All of which brings us back to the concerns Trump reportedly expressed in the spring. Hes concerned it will have a drag on the ticket if theyre seen as holding too staunch a position? By any fair measure, Vance is one of the Senates most far-right Republicans when it comes to reproductive rights, with a series of beliefs that most Americans would see as extreme.
Take this Washington Post report, for example.
Sen. J.D. Vance (R-Ohio), newly tapped as the GOP vice-presidential nominee, last year joined an effort to enforce the Comstock Act, the 151-year-old federal law that has become a lightning rod in the nations abortion debate. The Comstock Act, which bans the mailing of abortion-related materials, has not been invoked for that purpose in about a century. ... But some Republicans have attempted to resurrect the law to limit or effectively ban abortion nationwide, a position that Vance and other lawmakers conveyed to Attorney General Merrick Garland in a January 2023 letter.
Unfortunately for the Republican ticket, this is just one of many relevant data points.
While Trump has avoided endorsing a national abortion ban, for example, CNN reported that Vance, during his Senate candidacy, said, I certainly would like abortion to be illegal nationally.
Vance, the year before reaching Capitol Hill, said at the time, Im sympathetic to the view that like, okay, look here, heres a situation lets say Roe vs. Wade is overruled. Ohio bans abortion, in 2022 or lets say 2024. And then, you know, every day George Soros sends a 747 to Columbus to load up disproportionately Black women to get them to go have abortions in California. And of course, the left will celebrate this as a victory for diversity uh, thats kind of creepy......
And did I mention that Vance publicly endorsed his home states six-week abortion ban, which does not include exceptions for rape or incest? Because he did that, too.
All of which brings us back to the concerns Trump reportedly expressed in the spring. Hes concerned it will have a drag on the ticket if theyre seen as holding too staunch a position? By any fair measure, Vance is one of the Senates most far-right Republicans when it comes to reproductive rights, with a series of beliefs that most Americans would see as extreme.
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JD Vance Said We Just Need To Reframe The Idea Of Forcing Women To Stay Pregnant [View all]
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
Jul 17
OP
Will all fathers be equally responsible for the child from pregnancy to adulthood?
bullimiami
Jul 17
#5
Then you fucking have the baby, you GD monster. Let's force you to endur something equally traumatic.
hlthe2b
Jul 17
#6
It is called an emasculator--used on bulls and boars. I was just being sensitive to some here.
hlthe2b
Jul 17
#19
Yes, but used on smaller (usually younger) animals. Considered cruel by many because of the high chance of
hlthe2b
Jul 17
#38
It's a potential male, so yes, it would have more rights than the "weaker vessel," women. n/t
valleyrogue
Jul 17
#12
No one is required by law to give up their bodily autonomy for another person
ProfessorPlum
Jul 17
#14
"WE "just" need to reframe the idea...". "Just!?" We're NOT your broodmares, effer!
electric_blue68
Jul 17
#21
Spraying rose water on shit gets you nothing but rose water on shit. The shit is still shit.
Solly Mack
Jul 17
#32
Fuck you, JD, you misogynist piece of shit. You don't have a clue what you're talking about.
Diamond_Dog
Jul 17
#36
It's not inconvenient to "SOCIETY" -- in GOP-land, we are each ON OUR OWN, mom gets all the medical bills
lostnfound
Jul 17
#40
Yep, that's the babies are innocent meme. But babies CAN and DO create HUGE problems
Model35mech
Jul 17
#41
Let's reframe it to include the death penalty for rapists. And mandatory vasectomies for all males at 18.
flying_wahini
Jul 18
#42
"It's not that our sadistic policies suck - it's our MESSAGING that's the problem!!!"
hatrack
Jul 18
#45
Hey Asshole:How about making birth control very widely available, how about paying for all child care costs, how about..
Dorn
Jul 18
#46