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Deek1935

(1,055 posts)
Sat Jul 20, 2024, 07:51 AM Jul 2024

If ANYONE here, or ANYWHERE, thinks that blowing up our current ticket is going to "be just fine" then listen up: [View all]

* VP Harris WILL NOT just be "poofed in" as a replacement candidate because too many people orchestrating this fucking mess do not want her, and there are very legitimate reasons, fair or unfair, to question her viability at the top of the ticket for a national general election. (Don't get me wrong. I think she's wonderful. Just stating cold hard facts.)

* Without Biden we lose the incumbency and party unity keys, almost certainly handing the election to Trump.

* Does anyone think VOTERS will not want a say? Of course they will.

* If it goes to an open brokered convention, get ready for a cluster fuck of a bitterly contested MESS. And people don't vote for a party in disarray.

* Republicans in Congress and in the states and Republican organizations like The Heritage Foundation will absolutely file lawsuits to keep a new ticket off of ballots in many states. That WILL happen, and they are preparing for it right now.

* If Harris is not the new nominee, and it's VERY questionable, a whole new ticket will have to stand up a whole new national campaign with a whole new campaign organization and team in just a few weeks before early voting starts. What a fucking mess that will be.

* If Harris is not the nominee, hundreds of millions of dollars can NOT be transferred from Biden/Harris to the new ticket. All new financing will have to be put in place.

***All the while all this crazy shit is going on instead of campaigning against Trump, the R's and Trump are out there campaigning and telling the country what a FUCKED UP SHITSHOW we are. HOW CAN WE GOVERN THE COUNTRY WHEN WE CAN'T EVEN GOVERN OURSELVES???***

What a god damned fucking MESS. And this is all the stuff people who answer polls and who are saying "There should be a new nominee, bla bla bla" are NOT considering.

The whole thing is a GIANT CLUSTERFUCK. And totally self-inflicted. While Trump and the MAGATS are laughing their asses of at us. And I do not blame them. Talk about self-destruction. We are witnessing a MASTERCLASS in it. And all out of hysteria, fear, fallacies, and fantasies. What TOTAL SHIT!

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Nobody comes out of this looking good. badhair77 Jul 2024 #1
I certainly hope someone is keeping a list of names.... Think. Again. Jul 2024 #4
It is optimistic that you think there will ever be an election again superpatriotman Jul 2024 #7
I DON'T think there will be another election if we lose... Think. Again. Jul 2024 #9
Biden and Harris do mcar Jul 2024 #58
They do not...and what Deek said is absolutely true. Demsrule86 Jul 2024 #68
This whole shitshow is feeling like the first episode of a two-part MacGyver show. CincyDem Jul 2024 #2
It's over except for the attention-getters.... Think. Again. Jul 2024 #3
I hope he and Biden's team are telling Biden and Harris to say "FUCK YOU" to the naysayers and to hang in there. Deek1935 Jul 2024 #5
Biden and Harris have consistently done that since this attack began... Think. Again. Jul 2024 #6
I'm with literally "fuck you." LuvLoogie Jul 2024 #51
Plus Trump gets a full month of campaigning while we sit idle. Cattledog Jul 2024 #8
YUP! Deek1935 Jul 2024 #11
Yeah, campaigning to half-size crowds and assassins. Think. Again. Jul 2024 #12
Exactly! This needs to be SHUT DOWN NOW. The so-called media can keep their mighty Wurlitzers banging out Texin Jul 2024 #38
As our usonian said "Get upwind of the smokescreen." Easterncedar Jul 2024 #10
I don't worry about things I don't have control of .... Kaleva Jul 2024 #13
I'm with you... but I also have cash, a go bag, and a few plans unblock Jul 2024 #16
You have a plan! Kaleva Jul 2024 #18
Several. One of them, ironically, is Austria unblock Jul 2024 #20
Amen. People should do this more. Sympthsical Jul 2024 #48
Family is coming over to visit soon Kaleva Jul 2024 #50
Sounds like a perfect Saturday. Good on you. Sympthsical Jul 2024 #54
I learned a lot in alcohol rehab Kaleva Jul 2024 #57
I don't think it's self-inflicted. intheflow Jul 2024 #14
Yeah that is self-inflected. Demsrule86 Jul 2024 #69
Republicans soandso Jul 2024 #74
Someone needs to expose... returnee Jul 2024 #15
If you have data on this, and I don't mean that in a snarky way at all Susan Calvin Jul 2024 #17
I know there was one fat cat... returnee Jul 2024 #26
It's in a NY Times article JustAnotherGen Jul 2024 #29
Does it name names as far as the Senators and Congress people? Susan Calvin Jul 2024 #37
Some more... soandso Jul 2024 #73
I know for a fact Walton and Cuban have been strong Democrats. Didn't look others up, but Silent Type Jul 2024 #77
Well, yes, they are Democratic donors soandso Jul 2024 #80
I don't like the extortion either, but I think they want Democrats to win. These same people contributed heavily Silent Type Jul 2024 #81
I think the point is soandso Jul 2024 #83
I guess they could have just stopped donating while saying nothing. Silent Type Jul 2024 #85
That would certainly be their right soandso Jul 2024 #87
They want tax cuts. Demsrule86 Jul 2024 #94
So, after all these years of contributing to Democrats, they suddenly want tax cuts? I doubt many people who Silent Type Jul 2024 #97
No rich SOB is going to tell me who to vote for period. We had a primary. They can fuck off. Demsrule86 Jul 2024 #95
I'm voting Democratic, no matter what happens. Silent Type Jul 2024 #98
James Carville persuaded them to boycott donating to Biden-Harris. summer_in_TX Jul 2024 #107
I've heard chatter that big donors are driving the anti-Joe push. Snarkoleptic Jul 2024 #19
Not to mention, Mr. Evil Jul 2024 #24
AIPAC? JustAnotherGen Jul 2024 #31
There is also a list of mega donors BonnieJW Jul 2024 #32
It is all over youtube. Demsrule86 Jul 2024 #70
It is all over Youtube. I posted it here. Demsrule86 Jul 2024 #71
It's not just chatter soandso Jul 2024 #79
Yep. All about the naked greed of a few billionaire parasites, and the lust for power of a right-wing PatrickforB Jul 2024 #104
And as someone pointed out in another thread, tanyev Jul 2024 #21
This is 100% false, please stop repeating it. Mike Niendorff Jul 2024 #22
I am talking about if Joe resigned now and Kamala became president. tanyev Jul 2024 #23
Exactly. And who would be President if something happened to Harris? obamanut2012 Jul 2024 #45
If this scenario happened, why couldn't we blast republicans day and night about jeopardizing US national security ecstatic Jul 2024 #75
And, we also get President Johnson obamanut2012 Jul 2024 #46
Uncharted territory! soandso Jul 2024 #82
Amendment 25 of the Constitution. tanyev Jul 2024 #88
Biden not being the candidate soandso Jul 2024 #91
In post 21 I was talking about IF Biden resigned now and she became president. tanyev Jul 2024 #93
Gotcha soandso Jul 2024 #100
It does not have to be approved. former9thward Jul 2024 #90
Thank you soandso Jul 2024 #92
We would be giving Trump a stick to beat us with: 4139 Jul 2024 #25
Ridin with Biden BoRaGard Jul 2024 #27
Over one debate. Nt XanaDUer2 Jul 2024 #28
It's not about the debate BonnieJW Jul 2024 #33
The question is: piddyprints Jul 2024 #30
Almost as if some want trump to win. Blue Full Moon Jul 2024 #34
1000% agree sarchasm Jul 2024 #35
Totally Agree with You - a Self-inflicted Wound by Party Insiders! waterwatcher123 Jul 2024 #36
What is the plan? jmbar2 Jul 2024 #39
The plan is entirely up to you Kaleva Jul 2024 #52
My questions are rhetorical jmbar2 Jul 2024 #63
If Biden does drop out, how will you do that? Kaleva Jul 2024 #66
Down to the last detail. I just wonder who they have in mind to take the knee for the oligarchy. 58Sunliner Jul 2024 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Jul 2024 #41
I smell Russia from my house sanduca Jul 2024 #42
So you think that soandso Jul 2024 #86
No! sanduca Jul 2024 #110
Pelosi and Obama legacy is on the line kansasobama Jul 2024 #43
Aaaaaaand under the DU bus goes Obama BannonsLiver Jul 2024 #47
And Clooney soandso Jul 2024 #89
Not to mention the ballot lawsuits the RNC..... S/V Loner Jul 2024 #44
There are no ballots to change at this point Zeitghost Jul 2024 #60
Tech bros, with obscene amounts of cash, intend to rule the world dlk Jul 2024 #49
The longer Biden waits, the easier it becomes for Harris. Sneederbunk Jul 2024 #53
Harris will not be the candidate. They don't want her either. Demsrule86 Jul 2024 #72
The Republicans couldn't do as much damage doc03 Jul 2024 #55
instead... myohmy2 Jul 2024 #56
How do you know those orchestrating the movement to push Biden aside don't want Kamala? iemanja Jul 2024 #59
AOC Aepps22 Jul 2024 #64
I missed that iemanja Jul 2024 #67
Remember the "mini primary" being floated soandso Jul 2024 #99
That doesn't rule her out iemanja Jul 2024 #101
True enough soandso Jul 2024 #103
Nails it. republianmushroom Jul 2024 #61
People are naively assuming Harris wins at the top of the ticket pinkstarburst Jul 2024 #62
Yes. And if Harris or other new candidate did not instantly skyrocket in the polls, tanyev Jul 2024 #96
But we DID vote for Harris Rstrstx Jul 2024 #102
No one voted for her to be the top of the ticket pinkstarburst Jul 2024 #108
You have to take that into consideration when an 81 year old is running Rstrstx Jul 2024 #109
Nothing good can come from any of this now. I want to be wrong about thinking that. Politicub Jul 2024 #65
I cling to the thought that this is the July silly season. OnDoutside Jul 2024 #78
What is your solution for getting out of the hole we're in because the current strategy is not working? LonePirate Jul 2024 #76
Deek, this is exactly how I feel & what I'm thinking. Instead of imagining the youth vote as a faceless bloc... Hekate Jul 2024 #84
As for those polled about having a new candidate. LiberalFighter Jul 2024 #105
I guess I need to buy a new popcorn machine. RipVanWinkle Jul 2024 #106
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