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71. New York Times editor Joe Kahn says defending democracy is a partisan act and he won't do it
Sat Jul 20, 2024, 09:28 AM
Jul 20


https://presswatchers.org/2024/05/new-york-times-editor-joe-kahn-says-defending-democracy-is-a-partisan-act-and-he-wont-do-it/


Joe Kahn, right, and Dean Baquet, in happier times. (NYT photo)


Joe Kahn, after two years in charge of the New York Times newsroom, has learned nothing. He had an extraordinary opportunity, upon taking over from Dean Baquet, to right the ship: to recognize that the Times was not warning sufficiently of the threat to democracy presented by a second Trump presidency. But to Kahn, democracy is a partisan issue and he’s not taking sides. He made that clear in an interview with obsequious former employee Ben Smith, now the editor of Semafor. Kahn accused those of us asking the Times to do better of wanting it to be a house organ of the Democratic party:



But critics like me aren’t asking the Times to abandon its independence. We’re asking the Times to recognize that it isn’t living up to its own standards of truth-telling and independence when it obfuscates the stakes of the 2024 election, covers up for Trump’s derangement, and goes out of its way to make Biden look weak. Kahn’s position is, not coincidentally, identical to that of his boss, publisher A.G. Sulzberger, who I recently wrote about in my post, “Why is New York Times campaign coverage so bad? Because that’s what the publisher wants.” And to the extent that Kahn has changed anything in the Times newsroom since Baquet left, it’s to double down on a form of objectivity that favors the comfortable-white-male perspective and considers anything else little more than hysteria.

Throwing Baquet under the bus, Kahn called the summer of the Black Lives Matter protests “an extreme moment” during which the Times lost its way. “I think we’ve learned from it. I think we found our footing after that,” he said. I translate that to mean that the old guard has reasserted total control over the rabble. But how, exactly, the Times lost its footing, he doesn’t explain. I’d love to see him point to a few articles that he considers went too far. Best I can tell, his real complaint is that the Times under Baquet hired too many young and diverse people who — in his view — don’t understand the rules. “I think there’s a larger number of people who we might at some point have hired, but we’ve asked the kind of questions or looked at the sort of work that they do, and wondered whether they’d be a good fit for us,” Kahn said, making it clear he won’t make that mistake again. His example was hyperbolic and not even vaguely credible:



I’d be willing to bet a large sum that no job candidate at the Times has ever said any such thing.

On Democracy

In one small paragraph, Kahn outdid himself. He:



Here’s what he said:



(Smith had asked Kahn to respond to Pfeiffer, a former Obama official, who recently complained that the editors at the Times “do not see their job as saving democracy or stopping an authoritarian from taking power.”) That one paragraph, posted on social media by NYU professor Jay Rosen, elicited a storm of critiques. Cartoonist Ruben Bolling was among those upset by Kahn’s dismissal of democracy as a key issue.



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This happens every four years misanthrope Jul 19 #1
Yep. I am quite shocked at the shock over corporate media. Marcus IM Jul 19 #3
the embrace of open fascism is a little unexpected ProfessorPlum Jul 19 #4
Me too, Professor Plum peggysue2 Jul 19 #13
"DEMOCRACY IS A PARTISAN ISSUE?""" HUAJIAO Jul 19 #31
WTF is that??? peggysue2 Jul 19 #34
see post 71 Celerity Jul 20 #73
New York Times editor Joe Kahn says defending democracy is a partisan act and he won't do it Celerity Jul 20 #71
That statement was disgusting Dave says Jul 19 #40
Maybe... soldierant Jul 19 #52
Democracy who needs democracy when you ride on the Big Daddy "Don" Near-Martyr Trump fun ship StClone Jul 19 #57
Their jobs are to get ratings for their networks, not necessarily report the news. CrispyQ Jul 20 #81
I can't imagine wanting money so bad that you'd sell your own country out. NoSheep Jul 20 #59
Enemies of bdamomma Jul 20 #67
I cannot understand why every Democrat with Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 20 #64
I did! Mary Mac Jul 20 #86
Thank you! The Times has done some awful damage in the past (hello yellowcake), Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 20 #92
Same here PatSeg Jul 19 #21
We did, indeed, PatSeg peggysue2 Jul 19 #33
Probably because we are still a very young country PatSeg Jul 19 #44
Took things bdamomma Jul 20 #68
Very good point Dave says Jul 19 #42
Far too many still do. Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 20 #65
Yes, it is hard to wrap my head around PatSeg Jul 20 #83
You are right Professor. Demsrule86 Jul 20 #77
I'm not shocked, I'm disgusted Dave says Jul 19 #41
Angry is good bdamomma Jul 20 #69
Media has always been corporate, the majority Republican shareholders live love laugh Jul 19 #55
Yes, but two things changed in the last 50 years misanthrope Jul 20 #61
I share the same feelings. I keep begging fellow dur's and personal friends glued to cable news, to Turn it off and keep msfiddlestix Jul 19 #56
no, this is different Skittles Jul 19 #9
+1... myohmy2 Jul 19 #15
Exactly chia Jul 19 #16
Do you remember the round-robin of swift boating that went on against John Kerry? Marcus IM Jul 19 #19
I'm still pissed at the stupid band-aids stunt. Dave Bowman Jul 19 #26
So playing dress up isn't a new thing for republicans. Claustrum Jul 19 #29
You can't fix bdamomma Jul 20 #70
Kick for visability Demsrule86 Jul 20 #87
I do remember. blue neen Jul 19 #27
My point is that it is the same players. The unhinged RW along with corporate media. Marcus IM Jul 19 #35
Max Cleland displacedvermoter Jul 19 #39
Max Cleland was blasted for questioning the wisdom of the war in Iraq Tweedy Jul 20 #62
Which by the way GigiLeigh Jul 19 #48
Gore, Kerry, Dean, Hillary Cosmocat Jul 19 #53
Kerry did not fight back hard against it. And they over covered it. FloridaBlues Jul 19 #54
+ a zillion Dave says Jul 19 #43
I am no spring chicken. This is unusual!!! Pacifist Patriot Jul 19 #47
Yes. And to me it even far beyond unusual. It is insane and unhinged! emulatorloo Jul 20 #80
Not to the extent it is happening this year. It's like they're frantic to torpedo the Dems' chances across the board. Texin Jul 19 #25
Does it ever Tweedy Jul 20 #60
Mr. Cesca is correct on all points. sheshe2 Jul 19 #2
The media bdamomma Jul 19 #5
The Media won't hear a word you say DENVERPOPS Jul 19 #6
Oh, but we've heard ad infinitum since the Reagan era about the media's leftist tilt misanthrope Jul 19 #12
That's certainly true. Not so funny anymore. calimary Jul 19 #18
Operated By ProfessorGAC Jul 19 #32
True..but we can turn it off en masse! All the networks ratings are way down, we can continue to push it further. PortTack Jul 19 #37
⬆⬆⬆THIS⬆⬆⬆ Think. Again. Jul 19 #45
I'm here on DU, NOT WATCH THE CRAP ALL THE NETWORKS ARE PUSHING...... a kennedy Jul 19 #49
I've turned then off. 3rd day since the... shooting B.See Jul 19 #50
Geez, bdamomma Jul 20 #84
It would be nice to have a voters' revolt that gives us House, Senate, White House... Hermit-The-Prog Jul 19 #8
I love their ratings have fallen to the basement. True Blue American Jul 19 #30
Organized and orchestrated Warpy Jul 19 #7
All the Uber Rich Oligarchs DENVERPOPS Jul 20 #91
This is great wryter2000 Jul 19 #10
Not just a failure. An utter disaster. Baitball Blogger Jul 19 #11
Like Kevin Roberts of the Heritage foundation, the media now seems to be telling us to just surrender. ShazamIam Jul 19 #14
Kevin Roberts can bdamomma Jul 20 #75
Bob Cesca is right. and he's quoting Mueller She Wrote, one of the fewer and fewer voices out there I trust chia Jul 19 #17
I agree. hay rick Jul 19 #20
Cancel them all. Tansy_Gold Jul 19 #22
There are other bdamomma Jul 20 #74
He is right. It is different this time because valleyrogue Jul 19 #23
I Don't Necessarily Agree RobinA Jul 19 #24
i agree. barbtries Jul 19 #28
Agreed. Who TF is paying the punditry mzmolly Jul 19 #36
Fox News and Sinclair media. And Fox is owned by an Australian. BradBo Jul 19 #38
Mr. Cesca, your industry is compromised. It has been for decades. Magoo48 Jul 19 #46
Yup gixxerlee Jul 19 #51
Follow the money Randomthought Jul 20 #58
Fucking toilet-licking media can go straight to hell and take their tRump with them Blue Owl Jul 20 #63
Yes "the media is the one that should Drop OUt".. Stop Watching! Cha Jul 20 #66
There is going to be a boycott of the media get it out on social media. I can't use twitter...banned so anyone who can. Demsrule86 Jul 20 #79
This guy must be a kid. Irish_Dem Jul 20 #72
I just turned 68 and nothing has ever been this bad. You are correct it has always been a brawl emulatorloo Jul 20 #78
Our party has had many rough times. Irish_Dem Jul 20 #85
Yes we will get through it. emulatorloo Jul 20 #90
Here's a way we can help change that... Think. Again. Jul 20 #76
Boycott...send it on to your media folks. Anyone on Twitter keep this up unless and until Musk's goes after you. Demsrule86 Jul 20 #82
Kick Demsrule86 Jul 20 #88
Kick for visability. Demsrule86 Jul 20 #89
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