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Haggard Celine

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134. I also couldn't watch the debate.

Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:20 AM

Jul 21

He looked bad from the moment he arrived and it just got worse and worse. I really don't like so much uncertainty about our politics. Don't know who should run or if Biden should stay in. I think it's too late to change horses.

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Senator Sherrod Brown calls for JoeBiden to drop out of the race for president. [View all] Yorkie Mom Jul 19 OP

Oh, Jesus God! GPV Jul 19 #1

What the fuck is going on?? Scrivener7 Jul 19 #2

It's beyond sad mzmolly Jul 19 #51

Et tu, Sherrod? Ocelot II Jul 19 #3

This makes me wonder if it's not really over newdeal2 Jul 19 #10

And why not a unified statement instead of this one-at-a-time trickle? Magoo48 Jul 19 #36

Because that wouldn't get their individual names in the headlines. NYC Liberal Jul 19 #74

Do we hate Sherrod now too? dem4decades Jul 19 #78

Who said anything about hate? NYC Liberal Jul 19 #82

It isn't hatred to realize the vast majority of politicos are attention whores misanthrope Jul 19 #86

Who is "we"? live love laugh Jul 19 #95

The campaign donations better be worth it. Freethinker65 Jul 19 #4

Well, those donors are very rich. LisaL Jul 19 #30

I hope they got the money up front. Freethinker65 Jul 19 #38

That would be smart. LisaL Jul 19 #45

That's disappointing. Don't these Nervous Nellies know they are playing right into Tr*mp's hand? catbyte Jul 19 #5

et tu Sherrod?! 4139 Jul 19 #6

Difficult to see Sherrod as a corporate tool. polichick Jul 19 #7

Agree...one of the last I would have thought to join in on this BS... n/t Bengus81 Jul 19 #13

Makes me wonder if politicians are being bribed by big donors... polichick Jul 19 #54

WHAT the crap is really going on ???? WE, The Voters have a right to know. Trueblue1968 Jul 20 #115

Actually very easy Blue Full Moon Jul 19 #52

Hmm, never saw him that way. Maybe big donors got to him too then. polichick Jul 19 #58

I have called about an issue and got told imediately that corporations can do as they please. Blue Full Moon Jul 19 #70

I call bullshit. You are just continuing your smearing of Brown. No chance Brown would ever say: Celerity Jul 21 #128

Bollocks. A 3 week old anonymous account smearing Brown as a corporate tool w/ nothing backing up the smear is sus AF. Celerity Jul 21 #122

Actually been a member since 2003 Blue Full Moon Jul 21 #124

Why are you using multiple accounts? Celerity Jul 21 #129

Ohio Democratic Party Facebook Blue Full Moon Jul 21 #125

I now live in central Stockholm, yes. Born in Los Angeles, parents moved back to London when I was very young. Celerity Jul 21 #135

Yes. They cannot all have gone to the dark side. Irish_Dem Jul 20 #106

With Pelosi making it clearBiden/Harris Blue Full Moon Jul 21 #142

Oh did she finally come out with a statement ? Irish_Dem Jul 21 #146

Anyone else get a email today to donate to Adam Schiff? Bengus81 Jul 19 #8

Donate to Adam Schiff? LisaL Jul 19 #48

TY Maybe you could tell them why? Seems Schiff wants the Cha Jul 20 #98

Yes. My reply wasn't pretty. onecaliberal Jul 20 #108

And add Seth Moulton Yorkie Mom Jul 19 #9

I think this is what it's all about. Read what Seth Moulton says. Yorkie Mom Jul 19 #27

I have heard reports that several of the leaders at Normandy were shocked at how Biden doc03 Jul 19 #61

I also couldn't watch the debate. Haggard Celine Jul 21 #134

I think we are seeing what is going to happen. Irish_Dem Jul 20 #96

This message was self-deleted by its author DiamondShark Jul 20 #103

oh? I thought you said next week? edisdead Jul 20 #111

One to seven days should give us more information. Irish_Dem Jul 20 #113

This message was self-deleted by its author DiamondShark Jul 20 #102

your timeline is off, the D-Day memorial in Normandy was weeks before Moulton called for Biden to drop out Celerity Jul 20 #116

This message was self-deleted by its author DiamondShark Jul 20 #118

When they met in Normandy, Biden had no clue Moulton would tell him to drop out in the future Celerity Jul 20 #121

This message was self-deleted by its author DiamondShark Jul 21 #123

Biden cannot time travel. Moulton had NOT yet called upon Biden to drop out when they met in Normandy. Celerity Jul 21 #127

This message was self-deleted by its author DiamondShark Jul 21 #130

Lol, talk about a non sequitur. Nothing I said remotely stated any such thing. You are now employing a false, invented Celerity Jul 21 #132

This message was self-deleted by its author DiamondShark Jul 21 #133

And the subject slide is now complete. Done here. Celerity Jul 21 #136

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This message was self-deleted by its author DiamondShark Jul 21 #138

I concede nothing. You made two clear timeframe errors, as conclusively shown. Celerity Jul 21 #139

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Twice now (posts 137 and 140) you have self-deleted as I was replying, including accusing me of nefarious motives Celerity Jul 21 #143

This message was self-deleted by its author DiamondShark Jul 21 #147

that is patently untrue, you DID accuse me of having sus motives in post 140, and you (like you also did in post 137) Celerity Jul 21 #149

wow DiamondShark Jul 21 #150

Yep, I did quote your post 116, if you were sus there, that is on you. DiamondShark Jul 21 #157

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I did not know that DU'ers were under a DiamondShark-mandated clock for how long we have to reply to meet your wishes Celerity Jul 21 #152

Double wow. DiamondShark Jul 21 #154

Biden said in his presser Deminpenn Jul 19 #11

But it certainly doesn't help the public perception of Biden's ability to continue. Ocelot II Jul 19 #16

This is what I think as well newdeal2 Jul 19 #23

Hey, newdeal2 how'd ya hear of Democratic Underground??? a kennedy Jul 19 #31

Longtime lurker newdeal2 Jul 19 #46

DU IS THE BEST PLACE...... a kennedy Jul 19 #72

Oh Thanks for that.. I was Cha Jul 20 #99

This train is growing Tickle Jul 19 #12

Why are they all blaming their constituents demanding that Biden drop out? Blaukraut Jul 19 #14

Polls show two-thirds of Democrats think Joe should drop out. So, yes, his constituents matter. Doodley Jul 19 #41

That poll also showed majority of Repubs wanted Trump to step down. edisdead Jul 20 #112

Do you have any evidence that he's lying about his constituents? n/t Shrek Jul 19 #47

Look at his message. LisaL Jul 19 #53

Well I for one did not call him about forcing Biden's resignation Hope22 Jul 21 #131

Have you looked at the polls on that question? In most of them, a large majority of Dems (even higher for indies) Celerity Jul 20 #107

Yikes, wasn't expecting him. tritsofme Jul 19 #15

I was, based on what he was quoted as saying some days ago. LisaL Jul 19 #21

The Ohio deadline for a major party to name its nominee is September 1. Ms. Toad Jul 19 #55

That's not accurate. LisaL Jul 19 #60

Ninety days is August 31 or September 1. Ms. Toad Jul 19 #65

That's not what DNC chair thinks. LisaL Jul 19 #73

Meeting the August 7 deadline to avoid legal challenges Ms. Toad Jul 19 #81

This! Amishman Jul 19 #91

This message was self-deleted by its author DiamondShark Jul 20 #105

It isn't an decision Ohio can make - Ms. Toad Jul 20 #109

This message was self-deleted by its author DiamondShark Jul 20 #117

Your title says "Ohio Democrats" will play it safe. Ms. Toad Jul 20 #119

This message was self-deleted by its author DiamondShark Jul 20 #120

From La Rose now. Ms. Toad Jul 20 #110

I was just looking at who receives the most money liberalmuse Jul 19 #17

It's always going to be the ones who are in the most competitive races. BlueCheeseAgain Jul 19 #24

Sorry, just read your post.....and damn it, that IS IT....10th on the list??? a kennedy Jul 19 #26

I was looking at Brown's name there towards the top minutes before he came out. liberalmuse Jul 19 #50

They are fooling themselves suppose $$ donors don't return to them. Suppose FloridaBlues Jul 19 #71

And how many times will they want them to jump. Phoenix61 Jul 19 #93

Exactly when is it enough... won't be for them. Scrappy Joe you do you and fight back! FloridaBlues Jul 19 #94

No damn way.........oh shoot. a kennedy Jul 19 #18

So much for democracy soandso Jul 19 #19

poorly executed ecstatic Jul 19 #20

We might end up not having a democratic candidate on a ballot in OH because of the deadline. LisaL Jul 19 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author doc03 Jul 19 #79

Newsflash Senator, you should be campaigning along President Biden MagickMuffin Jul 19 #22

It is Ohio he has to distance himself from Biden to be re-elected. doc03 Jul 19 #80

Well I stand by my point, they should campaign together MagickMuffin Jul 19 #85

Keep "Al Frankining" Biden until he says to HELL with it. Real smart................n/t Bengus81 Jul 19 #25

WTAF EarlG Jul 19 #29

It is freaking weird. LisaL Jul 19 #35

It's a strange statement, but I think it's because he went out of his way not to criticize Biden. Bleacher Creature Jul 19 #56

Who does he think is going to help him to win in OH? LisaL Jul 19 #62

Yes, and BTW.. The President who Is Helping with all those Cha Jul 20 #100

Donors are promising campaign money to those democrats who come out against Biden. LisaL Jul 20 #104

WTF?! I just donated to his campaign yesterday, and I don't even live in Ohio. I want my money back. Arabela Jul 19 #32

Go to your CC and deny payment,they'll ask for a reason so tell them... n't Bengus81 Jul 19 #44

I just left him a voicemail expressing my disappointment. Arabela Jul 19 #66

Another The Bopper Jul 19 #33

I am one of those OH democrats and I agree. LisaL Jul 19 #37

Joe Must be Putting Up a Fight PikaBlue Jul 19 #34

Biden said multiple times he is not quitting, so clearly he is putting up a fight. LisaL Jul 19 #40

Again with no offering of a backup plan Blue Owl Jul 19 #39

And look at his reasoning. LisaL Jul 19 #43

I don't think they have a backup plan. LisaL Jul 19 #49

Nope, they are just dancing to the tune their donors are playing misanthrope Jul 19 #87

Ah, damn, man! Maeve Jul 19 #42

He'll go under the bus. nt LexVegas Jul 19 #57

And he was shitty about it too. n/t OneGrassRoot Jul 19 #59

He's in a tight campaign underpants Jul 19 #63

It's likely worse than that. OH is a red state now. LisaL Jul 19 #64

Maybe being seen as a bit not related to the party? underpants Jul 19 #76

That didn't work for Tim Ryan. LisaL Jul 19 #77

Oh, OK. bluestarone Jul 19 #67

no fucking reason given bigtree Jul 19 #68

These Dems are sinking themselves and the rest of us FloridaBlues Jul 19 #69

They got to him too. no_hypocrisy Jul 19 #75

No, The people of Ohio do not care about those issues JI7 Jul 19 #83

The thing he doesn't list that Ohioans are saying... appmanga Jul 19 #84

Well, he keeps begging me for money. alarimer Jul 19 #88

Judas Sherrod, I think that you are a loser. Miami Blue Jul 19 #89

There's something going on. My guess is something medical. I hope not, of course, but that's what I think is going on. still-prayin4rain Jul 19 #90

They tried to claim he's senile. NATO conference proved he has a masterful grasp on global events. emulatorloo Jul 20 #101

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I would vote for Biden even if he was in ICU. Emile Jul 21 #153

Where have I heard this before? Oh yes. DFW Jul 19 #92

Excellent post! Deja vu all over again... Casandia Jul 20 #97

My opinion of Sherrod has just dropped significantly Blue Owl Jul 21 #126

That's it? Just "end his campaign?" Iggo Jul 21 #144

stick to your day job, Senator eShirl Jul 21 #145

This does not reflect good on Sherrod Brown. Emile Jul 21 #151

Polling indicates the effect of Vance on the GOP ticket bucolic_frolic Jul 21 #155

Did Brown sell himself for enough money to the MegaDonors/Oligarchs? MrWowWow Jul 21 #156

"I agree with the five megadonors who reached out to me" JT45242 Jul 21 #158