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jg10003

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73. Harris can lose MI and still win the election if she wins PA. She cannot lose PA and win the election.

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Sat Aug 3, 2024, 08:46 PM

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Shapiro seeks to downplay his time as IDF volunteer after college op-ed resurfaces [View all] onandup Aug 3 OP

Wasn't that like 30 years ago when he just got out of high school? Think. Again. Aug 3 #1

You mean same age as those student protesters he seems not to think highly of? BeyondGeography Aug 3 #6

Those students are acting currently.... Think. Again. Aug 3 #7

Everything is free game in politics. jimfields33 Aug 3 #27

Yes, and it's expected from the opposing party... Think. Again. Aug 3 #44

I missed it was the democratic supporters doing it. jimfields33 Aug 3 #76

Are you saying you didn't read this threads OP here on DU???? Think. Again. Aug 3 #82

I typically do. I'm slipping. jimfields33 Aug 3 #99

It turns out even the voucher B.S. is a rightwing lie. Think. Again. Aug 4 #114

Ya think? DiamondShark Aug 4 #126

Are we going to hold it against them for 30 years? marybourg Aug 3 #11

Because these are legit questions, around the same time he wrote this JCMach1 Aug 3 #84

But wouldn't his answer be obvious.... Think. Again. Aug 3 #87

You really don't get what the right wing noise machine is? JCMach1 Aug 3 #98

I thought I was being clear.... Think. Again. Aug 4 #109

Just going to leave it there... JCMach1 Aug 4 #121

DU is a discussion site. Why is it "amplifying" to bring up a discussable topic? LAS14 Aug 4 #119

Without some threads on DU, I wouldn't have heard the LIE that Shapiro joined the IDF as a youth. Think. Again. Aug 4 #120

And you wouldn't have known what to say when you heard it elsewhere. LAS14 Aug 4 #122

A rightwing lie would not have been a discussion in the other outlets I attend. Think. Again. Aug 4 #123

The quote will be used like he said it yesterday womanofthehills Aug 5 #136

Shapiro is calling for an immediate two state solution and has harshly criticized Netanyahu emulatorloo Aug 3 #2

It is a big deal that a candidate would have been a member JCMach1 Aug 3 #3

30 years ago. Think. Again. Aug 3 #8

Let me just frame it. I was offered a chance to train. With the Sandinistas JCMach1 Aug 3 #10

Israel is not, and never was the Sandinistas. marybourg Aug 3 #14

Let me just frame it for you. SHAPIRO WAS NOT IN THE FUCKING IDF and DID NOT "swear allegiance" emulatorloo Aug 3 #60

He stated it as volunteer work for IDF... JCMach1 Aug 3 #78

There's nothing complex or nuanced about it. He was on a highschool volunteer trip, on a farm, a fishery, emulatorloo Aug 3 #85

Seems like there is a lot of crap going around iemanja Aug 3 #96

Oh Please Zeitghost Aug 3 #12

Bernie Sanders was also a member of a kibbutz JohnSJ Aug 3 #93

He was not a member of a foreign military service. marybourg Aug 3 #13

++++++++ emulatorloo Aug 3 #62

More profoundly dishonest than insane. TheKentuckian Aug 4 #131

he was never part of the IDF. As a high school project jg10003 Aug 3 #19

He was not a member of a foreign military service. madaboutharry Aug 3 #23

This message was self-deleted by its author questionseverything Aug 3 #24

There is nothing to defend. madaboutharry Aug 3 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author questionseverything Aug 3 #36

He volunteered to do service work. madaboutharry Aug 3 #42

i am just relaying his words questionseverything Aug 3 #68

Hang on, hang on, let's see if I understand this correctly. DiamondShark Aug 4 #127

I googled and there there are no links that support that claim. lapucelle Aug 3 #83

If you click on the link in the tweet below you will see the full newspaper page and can read the whole thing Nanjeanne Aug 3 #100

Citing one instance consisting of one sentence from something written 30 years ago lapucelle Aug 3 #106

I never said 30 years. I cited what he said. So he said he served. You always want more but i Nanjeanne Aug 4 #115

You responded to me in a subthread. I was responding to to the ridiculous claim lapucelle Aug 4 #116

Whatever you say. I can't read your reply. Too many words. I'm sure you are 100% right. Enjoy! Nanjeanne Aug 4 #117

That's OK. I couldn't read some of the stuff on the twitter account you linked to. I don't read Arabic. lapucelle Aug 4 #118

This message was self-deleted by its author emulatorloo Aug 3 #52

I'm shocked that you are doubling down on misinformation. emulatorloo Aug 3 #64

Yes so very Shocking. It seems very important for Cha Aug 3 #103

People are pushing back on misinformation before it evolves into DISINFORMATION. lapucelle Aug 3 #80

Plus a million. The disinformation mongers are a very Nixie Aug 3 #90

Mahalo, lapucelle! "Who benefits from misinformation repeated to the point that it becomes disinformation?" Cha Aug 3 #104

Except that Shapiro wasn't "a member of a foreign military service". lapucelle Aug 3 #69

Well that's that. We can't afford to lose battleground state Mi. brush Aug 3 #4

Can't afford to lose PA either. wnylib Aug 3 #18

So we keep one or lose one, instead of keeping both? brush Aug 3 #31

I am just pointing out that MI is not the only important state wnylib Aug 3 #37

And I'm pointing out we don't have to take the chance of loosing MI... brush Aug 3 #49

Why are you asking me? It's VP Harris' decision to make. wnylib Aug 3 #55

Are you backing away from your posts stating your obvious preference for Shapiro as the veep pick? brush Aug 3 #59

Re-read my posts. Your claim that my posts wnylib Aug 3 #61

Oh, okay. brush Aug 3 #63

Harris can lose MI and still win the election if she wins PA. She cannot lose PA and win the election. jg10003 Aug 3 #73

Well, show us the math. It's going ot be a close election. Why take chances? brush Aug 3 #81

Are you saying there is no way SocialDemocrat61 Aug 3 #34

See my #37. wnylib Aug 3 #40

And Why Would We "Lose Michigan"? Cha Aug 3 #105

We won't. This is a serious minority who would never vote for us anyway...For example Nina Turner is Demsrule86 Aug 3 #88

We can't afford to lose even a few percentage points of Gen Z either. Sky Jewels Aug 4 #125

A lot of us did things when we were young which is not who we are now having matured. elocs Aug 3 #5

There was not, and is not, anything wrong with what he did. He isn't my marybourg Aug 3 #16

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No, he did not. orange jar Aug 3 #32

I suggest googling the definition of a trope. madaboutharry Aug 3 #43

Wow, that's just an outright lie. Think. Again. Aug 3 #46

Dual loyalty sarisataka Aug 3 #47

You have not read the link or what people are writing. He did nothing other marybourg Aug 3 #48

THAT IS UNTRUE. Please self delete emulatorloo Aug 3 #53

This message was self-deleted by its author questionseverything Aug 3 #54

Read the damn quote from the OP's article and stop spreading disinformation. emulatorloo Aug 3 #57

nyt's article questionseverything Aug 3 #65

Once again read the actual quote in the OP article. You are completely misinterpreting the NYT'S one emulatorloo Aug 3 #67

This message was self-deleted by its author questionseverything Aug 3 #70

I can not make it any plainer. You completely misunderstand. You claim he was a member of the IDF, he was not. emulatorloo Aug 3 #72

it's saturday night, the article is there for anyone to read....have a good one questionseverything Aug 3 #75

You too. emulatorloo Aug 3 #77

Shapiro did not write that in his essay. Those are not his own words. lapucelle Aug 3 #94

In his words TommyT139 Aug 4 #108

Yes, I know what Shapiro wrote in the essay. I was refuting the claim by the poster (via the NYT) lapucelle Aug 4 #112

/nods TommyT139 Aug 4 #113

The New York Times article says no such thing. lapucelle Aug 3 #92

Bullshit. He did no such thing. emulatorloo Aug 3 #66

6-27-2024 NoRethugFriends Aug 3 #9

Yep Mossfern Aug 3 #29

It was part of a high school program where they did volunteer work madaboutharry Aug 3 #15

+1000 wnylib Aug 3 #20

Oh, I think omitting that salient information is quite on purpose Sympthsical Aug 3 #25

Remember how ridiculous it was to blame Bernie for an essay he wrote in college? yardwork Aug 3 #17

sorry Skittles Aug 3 #41

One huge difference is Bernie's was fiction questionseverything Aug 3 #50

It wasn't fiction. It was an essay that theorized on causes of cancer. lapucelle Aug 3 #97

Dual Loyalty Trope gonna trope Sympthsical Aug 3 #21

I know. madaboutharry Aug 3 #22

Yep. orange jar Aug 3 #30

"I don't see the same people pearl clutching over Americans fighting in Ukraine right now." WhiskeyGrinder Aug 3 #33

Does Shapiro? orange jar Aug 3 #35

"Just because someone may be VP doesn't necessarily mean they want to be the future president." WhiskeyGrinder Aug 3 #45

I'm sure we would hear about it Sympthsical Aug 3 #39

Shapiro was not in the IDF nor did he "fight." emulatorloo Aug 3 #58

Korean Americans as well Sympthsical Aug 3 #38

The question of foreign allegiance here would become a relevant conversation. ColinC Aug 3 #51

That doesn't concern me. His 2021 statement "BDS is rooted in antisemitism" does. pat_k Aug 3 #56

It is a death to Israel scam significantly perpetrated by antisemitic and racist assholes TheKentuckian Aug 3 #89

Opposing illegal settlements is not "death to Israel"... pat_k Aug 3 #102

Yeah, that is all the "movement" is about...that's the ticket!!! TheKentuckian Aug 4 #128

For a vast majority, it is. pat_k Aug 4 #129

Did I stutter? TheKentuckian Aug 4 #132

?? pat_k Aug 5 #135

I have no problem with someone serving in a ally's military SocialDemocrat61 Aug 3 #71

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... emulatorloo Aug 3 #79

Are you claiming he will favor Israel because he is Jewish sarisataka Aug 3 #91

You know JFK was asked if he be loyal to the US or to the Vatican...he was Catholic...bigoty a curse we continue Demsrule86 Aug 3 #101

Oh my stars...bring me my smelling salts and some pearls to clutch...30 years ago he volunteered for the IDF or on Demsrule86 Aug 3 #86

He's going to be asked about it because with the ME being a powder keg right now there's no way it wouldn't ms liberty Aug 3 #95

There is/was NOTHING WRONG Mossfern Aug 3 #107

You might want to reread what I wrote, because I didn't say he or what he said was wrong ms liberty Aug 4 #130

You misunderstood my comment Mossfern Aug 4 #133

And I never accused him of joining the IDF, nor did I accuse him of giving allegiance to another nation ms liberty Aug 5 #137

I'm not accusing you of anything, just disagreeing with what you said ... Mossfern Aug 5 #138

Grist for the mill. dchill Aug 4 #110

This is smear Sugarcoated Aug 4 #111

this is why you do due diligence on everyone ZonkerHarris Aug 4 #124

if the VP choice is divisive, we lose ecstatic Aug 4 #134