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bucolic_frolic

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8. I agree with him. We don't want to peak now. We have policies to sell, but M$M both-sides everything

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Sun Aug 4, 2024, 12:00 PM

Aug 4

People and numbers have short perspectives. Everyone is really, really, really pissed at 3% inflation. Recall 1979, or 1981? 11%? 13?

GHWB was always 7-9% ahead of Dukakis. That's a lead.

We have momentum right now. M$M will beat us up for 3 months. Independents must be courted. Progressives must be encouraged. Those are opposing objectives to some extent.

What will win this race is turnout. Our ground game and outreach is what we have. But GQP does have voter suppression. Many, many voters will find themselves no longer registered to vote. GQP has turnout, but they do not have any reserve gas in that tank. We do.

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Axelrod: Harris momentum leaning heavily on 'irrational exuberance' - what's his problem? [View all] question everything Aug 4 OP

Isn't exuberance a good thing in a tight race? Irish_Dem Aug 4 #1

It's the irrational part we need to look at Bucky Aug 4 #56

The data supports the exuberance. Irish_Dem Aug 4 #64

Of course Bucky Aug 4 #69

They would do better to balance their thoughts like this. Irish_Dem Aug 4 #73

I don't recall any exuberance about Dukakis. yardwork Aug 4 #90

If you don't recall exuberance about Dukakis, then you don't remember the polling Bucky Aug 4 #98

People stuck in the beltway bubble have no clue NewHendoLib Aug 4 #2

BINGO 'NewHendo' democratsruletheday Aug 4 #17

Really. Why is Axelrod consistently a poli-junkie Aug 4 #3

Him and the Pod Save guys edisdead Aug 4 #18

That's good. So did Obama's. I wonder if he had a problem with it then, too. ColinC Aug 4 #4

I definitely don't remember him complaining about exuberance for Obama, or suggesting it was irrational. highplainsdem Aug 4 #51

+1, first women president Americans are supposed to be optimistic like Obamq uponit7771 Aug 5 #107

Might be pissed plouffe got the job he wanted.... unblock Aug 4 #5

+1 True Dough Aug 4 #27

OH Right! He was Always Whining about Pres Biden Before Cha Aug 4 #96

Prick* needs the money. Kid Berwyn Aug 4 #6

I never knew that. Bluesaph Aug 4 #23

Most apropos... Kid Berwyn Aug 4 #92

Wow! I've always thought Axelrod was a pr**k! BComplex Aug 4 #52

There are some Dems who fear an energized Dem base. Yavin4 Aug 4 #7

Yep. He's a couple decades off the mark. Sky Jewels Aug 4 #60

Same with Carville IMO ALBliberal Aug 4 #91

+1, 60% of gen x is dem and even more for gen z uponit7771 Aug 5 #109

I agree with him. We don't want to peak now. We have policies to sell, but M$M both-sides everything bucolic_frolic Aug 4 #8

Axelrod is a traitor to Democrats...one should never agree with him period. Demsrule86 Aug 4 #11

Have you actually looked at the polls? iemanja Aug 4 #12

Hear, hear!!! nt LAS14 Aug 4 #15

Axelrod was right about July Sympthsical Aug 4 #38

Are you kidding me..Axelrod is not on our side...deal. Demsrule86 Aug 4 #78

I can situate who is on my side just fine. Sympthsical Aug 4 #82

He has had JD Vance as a guest, Dan Crenshaw, Tom Cotton and Mike Murphy is usually on too..look it up Demsrule86 Aug 4 #86

This. obnoxiousdrunk Aug 4 #74

Yes I have but honestly...most of the polls are seriously flawed...Axlelrod is in the words of Biden a prick. Demsrule86 Aug 4 #76

I think having momentum is not peaking. The Ninga Aug 4 #39

Fortunately Mz Pip Aug 4 #50

... mcar Aug 4 #71

None of this is evidence of "irrational* part of Axelrods statement uponit7771 Aug 5 #108

Axelrod is a bad guy-trashed Biden daily and apparently intends to do the same to Kamala. He is no friend to Democrats Demsrule86 Aug 4 #9

Tom Cotton. He had Tom Cotton on his pod for an entire hour. vanlassie Aug 4 #31

Cotton is not the only one eithers...one wonder why some here seem to want his bullshit to be true. Demsrule86 Aug 4 #79

Axelrod predicted the "red tsunami" in 2022 crimycarny Aug 5 #104

The media are always boosting negative "Democratic" voices LuvLoogie Aug 4 #10

I'm energized whenever I bump into clear thinking, LAS14 Aug 4 #13

He and Carville need to go far, far away for the next 93 days. hlthe2b Aug 4 #14

Likes to hear himself talk. boston bean Aug 4 #16

Pays his rent like that. Iggo Aug 4 #55

His particular comments aside... consider_this Aug 4 #19

Excitement leads to votes Cirsium Aug 4 #43

Complacent people don't donate, volunteer, write postcards, make phone calls, put up signs, etc. Sky Jewels Aug 4 #72

Yeah we should be downtrodden and morose instead edisdead Aug 5 #99

did I say anything like that? consider_this Aug 5 #112

He wanted the mini primaries like Carville did, more opportunity for mischief displacedvermoter Aug 4 #20

He also just HAD to put himself above David Plouff Bluesaph Aug 4 #21

Please everybody "cancel" this guy awesomerwb1 Aug 4 #22

It's a fair point. Music Man Aug 4 #24

without enthusiasm how edisdead Aug 5 #100

I'm pretty sure I said that it can't be won on enthusiasm *alone* Music Man Aug 5 #103

Irrational? Diraven Aug 4 #25

He says over and over Harris is still behind in the polls. This is flat out false. Quixote1818 Aug 4 #26

I agree Aepps22 Aug 4 #28

Even in the polls where she's still behind NYC Liberal Aug 4 #57

He's a smart man epreic01 Aug 4 #29

Time and Place Aepps22 Aug 4 #33

Excitement drives participation edisdead Aug 5 #101

The Harris campaign didn't hire him SocialDemocrat61 Aug 4 #30

Yep, the parade passed him by and he is just jealous and angry they aren't running to him Attilatheblond Aug 5 #106

I don't think it's irrational at all. viva la Aug 4 #32

Giddy exuberance translates to tons of volunteers on the ground. MaryMagdaline Aug 4 #34

"Irrational exuberance" viva la Aug 4 #35

his problem: for over a year Axelrod has insisted Biden should withdraw.. agingdem Aug 4 #36

This. Sky Jewels Aug 4 #47

I wonder if Kamala had taken Axelrod on instead of David Plouffe agingdem Aug 4 #75

No doubt about it! Sky Jewels Aug 4 #88

Fck him mcar Aug 4 #37

He hates President Biden, has since he strongly encouraged Obama not to pick him as VP. He's a dog with a bone! PortTack Aug 4 #40

It's not irrational. It's natural. And it's a good thing. Iggo Aug 4 #41

Axelrod is very pragmatic and he is calling out what he knows and sees. People here trashing him are Pisces Aug 4 #42

I suggest you research this, he gave Tom Cotton an hour of this time on the Axe. Demsrule86 Aug 4 #84

One would never piss on a fire that's keeping them from freezing to death so why is Axelrod trying to piss on ImNotGod Aug 4 #44

Has entered Weird Dude territory. Sneederbunk Aug 4 #45

Debbie Downer is trying to stay relevant. Sky Jewels Aug 4 #46

I basically ignore Axelrod. ananda Aug 4 #48

He's been useless since 2016. Iggo Aug 4 #62

David Downer. Tommy Carcetti Aug 4 #49

He is just being realistic. everyonematters Aug 4 #53

He's being pessimistic. And that's okay Bucky Aug 4 #61

Lol Hard pass. Sky Jewels Aug 4 #65

I am also a progressive, but we need try to appeal to whole electorate. everyonematters Aug 4 #94

I am sorry how have we done in elections since 2018? edisdead Aug 5 #102

Don't see the "irrational" part being real... First female president warrants optimism like Obama uponit7771 Aug 5 #110

attention getting scum displaced in ID Aug 4 #54

Fuck him. We are going into a Convention and there is nothing wrong with a little exuberance JohnSJ Aug 4 #58

'irrational exuberance' J_William_Ryan Aug 4 #59

He's a moron if he doesn't realize that Sky Jewels Aug 4 #68

They were saying the same exact thing Charmin One Aug 4 #81

Wrong adjective, Axelrod.... dobleremolque Aug 4 #63

It's RATTIONAL EXUBERANCE Charmin One Aug 4 #66

Whereas the tRump campaign's supporters -- completely rational Blue Owl Aug 4 #67

I don't want to hear his take on exuberance Keepthesoulalive Aug 4 #70

His money comes from the horse race. The closer, the better. Iggo Aug 4 #87

It's a catchphrase that doesn't translate well to this situation, Mr. Axelrod... Hekate Aug 4 #77

Run full out all the way through the tape and don't get cocky should suffice. TheKentuckian Aug 4 #80

He saying something like the sun will rise in the east Klarkashton Aug 4 #83

He's not totally wrong. Voltaire2 Aug 4 #85

Suspiciously close to "hysterical" nt TommyT139 Aug 4 #89

Does anyone pay any attention to Axelrod? Why? LetMyPeopleVote Aug 4 #93

My Experienced guess.. Axe is a Bitter Whiner.. Always Whining Cha Aug 4 #95

Him and Carville, struggling to become relevant. F them both. eom CoopersDad Aug 4 #97

Axelrod has turned into an unpleasant scold among Dem strategists. brush Aug 5 #105

WTF happened to Axelrod? Skittles Aug 5 #111