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wnylib

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67. The federal government can get involved.

Thu Aug 15, 2024, 11:55 AM

Aug 2024

Mark Elias has already put them on notice that they will face legal consequences if they follow their plan to disrupt the election process.

The ABA has an "army" of lawyers across the country who are ready to step up to deal with this election fraud plan.

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Something isn't right [View all] angrychair Aug 2024 OP

They need to be told in no uncertain terms that failure to certify without court admissible evidence will... yourout Aug 2024 #1

Who is responsible for ensuring they're officially on notice? ariadne0614 Aug 2024 #6

It's a federal election so I would think the federalys should have some say in it yourout Aug 2024 #11

State law governs pat_k Aug 2024 #42

Federal law also governs BrianTheEVGuy Aug 2024 #45

The federal government can get involved. wnylib Aug 2024 #67

Do you know if there has pat_k Aug 2024 #68

I don't know of any challenges to the Georgia law. wnylib Aug 2024 #69

As Breyer put it in his dissent to Bush v. Gore, pat_k Aug 2024 #70

But when members of Congress are part of the coup, wnylib Aug 2024 #71

Garland? Emile Aug 2024 #37

Maybe if Biden replaces Garland Nov 6. bucolic_frolic Aug 2024 #10

Ha ha, you're not wrong! Frasier Balzov Aug 2024 #40

Here are the actual state laws and consequences: Fiendish Thingy Aug 2024 #32

Biden has a lot of immunity now Fullduplexxx Aug 2024 #2

Good point angrychair Aug 2024 #4

THIS FalloutShelter Aug 2024 #13

And NOTHING to lose shelshaw Aug 2024 #14

Joe Would Sacrifice his Life for Democracy Beetwasher. Aug 2024 #15

Immunity does equal impunity Fiendish Thingy Aug 2024 #31

You can bet they have not made arrangements for stealing in what they thought rzemanfl Aug 2024 #3

They've made arrangements to throw everything into chaos BEFORE any new Congress is seated.... Think. Again. Aug 2024 #16

The newly elected members of Congress will not be seated if their votes are not certified. wnylib Aug 2024 #19

Enough will be seated to elect Jefferies the new speaker Fiendish Thingy Aug 2024 #29

That's a relief. wnylib Aug 2024 #43

Doesn't that apply to the re-elected as well? rzemanfl Aug 2024 #46

I think it would apply to any persons whose win would be challenged MAGAs. by wnylib Aug 2024 #48

I would think certification applies to everything on the ballot, not races they cherry pick. rzemanfl Aug 2024 #49

But each certification is done separately. wnylib Aug 2024 #55

Not at the county and state level. rzemanfl Aug 2024 #57

They are certified separately at the state level. wnylib Aug 2024 #59

I was unaware of the "ascertainment" wrinkle. rzemanfl Aug 2024 #60

Unfortunately, MAGAs are very much aware of this possibility and plan to make use of it wnylib Aug 2024 #61

In this election, all the states are in play. rzemanfl Aug 2024 #62

I don't know how this will play out, anciano Aug 2024 #5

Unprecedented perhaps, but not totally uncharted Fiendish Thingy Aug 2024 #26

Trump is doing the best he can servermsh Aug 2024 #7

Fortunately, Joe is President. Anything that really stinks won't fly. In a legitimate coup attempt, Biden can do exactly brewens Aug 2024 #8

I suspect they plan to put the Blue Wave in question, we might not have any idea of what the final numbers are. Think. Again. Aug 2024 #20

Yes, he's very smug. It's either Blitzkrieg in October, or exactly as you say bucolic_frolic Aug 2024 #9

A couple of days ago, NPR reported cyclonefence Aug 2024 #12

Yes, the ABA, Marc Elias and hundreds, if not thousands, of lawyers to counter the RW attempt MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2024 #17

Trump is the Most Intensely Surveilled Individual on Earth Beetwasher. Aug 2024 #18

I disagree with Joy. madaboutharry Aug 2024 #21

That part I get angrychair Aug 2024 #25

In my state of AZ, if an election official refuses to certify, MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2024 #39

Welp, personally, I won't stand for that. CanonRay Aug 2024 #22

That could be part of it. Demobrat Aug 2024 #23

Non-certification of votes doesn't trigger a contingent election in the house Fiendish Thingy Aug 2024 #24

I appreciate the information angrychair Aug 2024 #30

At least now you will be anxiously well informed. Nt Fiendish Thingy Aug 2024 #33

That's my understanding of the process as well. Hugin Aug 2024 #47

They won't just rely on the consciences of the election officials...TSF operatives will have to give them wiggs Aug 2024 #63

Read the CREW report to see what has already been done to thwart the disruptors Fiendish Thingy Aug 2024 #64

The CREW report recognizes that the threat exists, which is what the OP also says, and recommends wiggs Aug 2024 #65

The report also outlines what *has* already been done and has been effective in stopping disruptors Fiendish Thingy Aug 2024 #66

*Slap to your face*. "Snap out of it", (via Cher in Moonstruck) a kennedy Aug 2024 #27

No bets from me. pat_k Aug 2024 #28

What about down ballot R candidates? newdeal2 Aug 2024 #34

Yep angrychair Aug 2024 #44

Or at least they think they do. liberal N proud Aug 2024 #35

They've seen what can happen...i dont think Chakaconcarne Aug 2024 #36

Not Capable Jazz Jon Aug 2024 #38

in 2020 Trump was confident he had fixed the outcome of the election... agingdem Aug 2024 #41

Seems to me this kind of thing would affect pukes as well? pwb Aug 2024 #51

I firmly believe he's just calling it in at this point Torchlight Aug 2024 #50

I think claudette Aug 2024 #52

I agree. He's going through the motions knowing all thst it will take is one KPN Aug 2024 #53

Trump is sure acting panicky and flustered for someone who's confident he's got the whole thing rigged RidinWithHarris Aug 2024 #54

I think Trump is just low energy, and he's also furious that he can't coast to victory... D23MIURG23 Aug 2024 #56

If they do that, what do we do? Take it? ecstatic Aug 2024 #58