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119. Be like Israel - kill everyone you can and get praise for defending yourself
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 06:33 AM
Dec 2012

If they don't like it then they women and kids should flee the country first, etc.

I predict a Libya redo. Multinational aircraft bombing till the guerilla rebels can take over NightWatcher Dec 2012 #1
I would shed no tears if Assad shared Gaddafi's fate... backscatter712 Dec 2012 #3
I can't see how any nation can stand and watch if he uses chem weapons... Cooley Hurd Dec 2012 #9
It has happened before ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #13
yes... the Kurds... Cooley Hurd Dec 2012 #16
His friends are not as powerful as Saddam's were. nt geek tragedy Dec 2012 #31
Look how long it took things in Libya and how hard it was to get things going ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #81
And he doesn't have the oil Saddam had. gateley Dec 2012 #101
Seems DUers have forgotten where those chemical weapons came from whatchamacallit Dec 2012 #74
What do you think is in the Syrian inventory ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #78
Only if they're Russian ex-pats living in the good old USA. KWorth Dec 2012 #82
Excellent point! Pterodactyl Apr 2013 #183
More like Russia, Iran, and North Korea hack89 Dec 2012 #127
My reply was to a post about the Kurds. whatchamacallit Dec 2012 #136
Perhaps we can reclaim some of that moral authority hack89 Dec 2012 #138
I'd like to think so whatchamacallit Dec 2012 #145
Sarin was invented in Germany in 1938, and can be made fairly easily. friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #179
You do know why countries get those weapons right? Dokkie Dec 2012 #91
True, but for the most part, the armed invaders are the Syrian people. KWorth Dec 2012 #94
Rubbish Dokkie Dec 2012 #99
Shock and Awe. I know this will not be popular but so what. Lochloosa Dec 2012 #2
There is a real problem with that... ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #14
I said it would not be popular, but which can we afford the least? Lochloosa Dec 2012 #22
It is a nasty calculus ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #48
Count me in.... AZ Mike Dec 2012 #63
Wonderful. It's really a lucky thing that Assad is the only person who lives in Syria eridani Dec 2012 #120
I think your question is valid, but there is a way to split the cost among civilized nations... Volaris Dec 2012 #83
The precedent is Lybia and this is messier ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #90
What happens when you bomb chemical weapons facilities? Comrade Grumpy Dec 2012 #149
The response should disable his ability to order such a thing ever again. nt msanthrope Dec 2012 #4
Use of chemical weapons on a civilian population can not and should not be tolerated Arcanetrance Dec 2012 #5
The targets won't be inside Syria. Most will be military bases and strategic installations in leveymg Dec 2012 #71
SEAL Team 6 PD Turk Dec 2012 #6
More than Seal teams will be needed. But I agree that Assad should be taken out and bluestate10 Dec 2012 #49
Uh, he hasn't used chemical weapons against anyone. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2012 #151
Im no big fan of intervention but in that case we have to take him out. Mr.Turnip Dec 2012 #7
If he does, two things jberryhill Dec 2012 #8
Massive international military response. Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #10
And then massive international aid to rebuild what was destroyed? ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #15
Targeting is everything. Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #27
Impossible to make it that clean ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #50
You're kidding me, right? Please tell me that you are kidding. Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #65
Tell me you are kidding me about an all American attack force ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #73
British aircraft carriers, French aircraft carriers, German air support, amphibious landing craft Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #86
I updated my prior post while you posted... ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #89
What would you say to framing this in such as way as to make it an extension of the Arab Spring, Volaris Dec 2012 #97
Putting aside the current obvious problems in those two countries Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #102
And who is going to 2naSalit Dec 2012 #114
Yes, because if there was ONE good thing that came from the invasion of Iraq... Volaris Dec 2012 #93
There won't be much of a country left after a massive int'l military response. leveymg Dec 2012 #110
The need for containment will outweigh all the other more desirable outcomes if Assad decides to Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #112
It's not just about one family or one general. It's a religious war. All the generals are Alawite, leveymg Dec 2012 #113
Someone in gold braid is going to crack. Someone is going to get shorted his share of the money, Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #116
That ending to this would be very Old Testament, wouldn't it? leveymg Dec 2012 #122
+1 AngryOldDem Dec 2012 #123
Slightly more than zero theKed Dec 2012 #125
No response. Dash87 Dec 2012 #11
Blame the rebels! Zorra Dec 2012 #12
What if he uses it on al Qaida operatives only? Arctic Dave Dec 2012 #17
no former-republican Dec 2012 #19
Why? Arctic Dave Dec 2012 #21
It's not realistic for one. Sarin gas does not go "oops"...can't kill that one...it's a civilian. Lochloosa Dec 2012 #25
Neither does a Hellfire or Tomahawk missile. Arctic Dave Dec 2012 #34
international law former-republican Dec 2012 #29
Lots of "international laws" the US ignores. Arctic Dave Dec 2012 #35
Oh for fuck's sake, you cannot be serious. geek tragedy Dec 2012 #30
High explosives is a chemical. Arctic Dave Dec 2012 #33
High explosives are not considered WMD's, and you are being deliberately obtuse. Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #41
Obtuse? Hardly. Arctic Dave Dec 2012 #54
You sound bored Kolesar Dec 2012 #44
Just showing the lack of logic. Arctic Dave Dec 2012 #57
Dishonest word games is all you Assadpologists have, I guess. nt geek tragedy Dec 2012 #105
Name calling? Really? Is this the playground or a discussion board? Comrade Grumpy Dec 2012 #152
How would you recommend responding someone seeking to justify geek tragedy Dec 2012 #153
So you got nothing. Again. Arctic Dave Dec 2012 #175
The gas can't be targeted. It kills or seriously injures anyone that get exposed to it. nt bluestate10 Dec 2012 #46
So does a high explosive. Arctic Dave Dec 2012 #58
Stop your dishonest trolling. Chemical weapons are banned under international law. geek tragedy Dec 2012 #108
what is dishonest about blast radius? ...don't care for Assad but that's no dishonest at all uponit7771 Dec 2012 #165
Dishonest is pretending there is no meaningful difference between geek tragedy Dec 2012 #167
LOL on the Godwin fail already Arctic Dave Dec 2012 #176
Turn Assad into a crater full of bone fragments. nt Comrade_McKenzie Dec 2012 #18
...and red mist. LuvLoogie Dec 2012 #23
Realistically: A harshly-worded memo from the U.N. nt Speck Tater Dec 2012 #20
I doubt it. I see an immediate attack with punishing consequences. nt bluestate10 Dec 2012 #42
Bomb the chemical weapons FarCenter Dec 2012 #24
If that is done, will the gasses be released? Renew Deal Dec 2012 #28
Probably, but it renders the weapons unusable. FarCenter Dec 2012 #32
Special, high heat producing bombs have to be used. The gas can survive regular bombs. nt bluestate10 Dec 2012 #39
But high heat bombs may not be completely effective if they miss; use nuclear bombs to be sure FarCenter Dec 2012 #59
Nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure! backscatter712 Dec 2012 #70
Thank you for the Ripley refernece. Volaris Dec 2012 #100
Who would've thought: a humanitarian use for napalm! n/t backscatter712 Dec 2012 #72
Aren't chemical weapons kept in two parts? backscatter712 Dec 2012 #64
Depends on the substance and weapon ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #75
There have been reports that they've already begun mixing the chemicals together Fozzledick Dec 2012 #76
Our forces are already in place with plans to destroy the weapons. Fozzledick Dec 2012 #26
If the weapons are deployed it will be too late by then former-republican Dec 2012 #40
True, but the alternative is to go in before they're deployed. Fozzledick Dec 2012 #53
Sounds like the plan could be commando attack by Seal Team 6... backscatter712 Dec 2012 #80
Oh, I think it would be much more than that. Fozzledick Dec 2012 #87
Very likely. n/t backscatter712 Dec 2012 #88
If Assad's forces use the gas against Turkey, that is a problem for Assad. bluestate10 Dec 2012 #36
How about we stay the fuck out of it... 99Forever Dec 2012 #37
we can't on this one former-republican Dec 2012 #43
Horsepucky. 99Forever Dec 2012 #47
I'm about as antiwar as you can get but if the U.S and the world can stop former-republican Dec 2012 #52
With our current military capabilities, it's a moral imperative to respond to this situation Hippo_Tron Dec 2012 #66
Assume much? 99Forever Dec 2012 #143
good people often do nothing in the face of tragedy LanternWaste Dec 2012 #150
not really no qazplm Dec 2012 #163
That's your opinion. 99Forever Dec 2012 #164
So we sit and watch 10s of thousands of civilians die? hack89 Dec 2012 #128
I love the smell of selective outrage... 99Forever Dec 2012 #129
No - I trust my President to make the correct moral decision. nt hack89 Dec 2012 #130
Nice sidestep. 99Forever Dec 2012 #134
You don't care about the Syrian civilians - I do. hack89 Dec 2012 #137
Make shit up much? 99Forever Dec 2012 #139
So we can't do both? hack89 Dec 2012 #142
Let me know when there is ... 99Forever Dec 2012 #144
so we only help others qazplm Dec 2012 #168
Not exactly. 99Forever Dec 2012 #170
so what level of assistance would qualify qazplm Dec 2012 #171
Who are you? 99Forever Dec 2012 #172
clearly qazplm Dec 2012 #174
10s of thousands are a small number compare with the Iran-Iraq Wars approximate million deaths FarCenter Dec 2012 #140
So because more were killed in the past hack89 Dec 2012 #141
BULL FUCKIN SHIT!! thx uponit7771 Dec 2012 #166
Yeah, just let them get slaughtered by a madman while we sit idly by. Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #51
There's lots of "brown-skinned" people dying .. 99Forever Dec 2012 #60
You picked it up and put it on yourself. Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #67
Bullshit. 99Forever Dec 2012 #126
Are you volunteering to go? JVS Dec 2012 #98
If they asked for my help, sure, why not? Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #103
What makes you think the Syrian rebels don't want your help now? JVS Dec 2012 #104
What makes you think that I am not helping them in some way already? Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #109
Weapons we gave to Rebels everywhere have been used against us Dash87 Dec 2012 #159
Absolutely. 99Forever Dec 2012 #161
NATO or UN military action Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #38
agreed, but that is the way it would have to be. We should not do it alone still_one Dec 2012 #55
and when the Russians veto UN action? (nt) AlexSatan Dec 2012 #154
If it comes to that they might not still_one Dec 2012 #162
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I will tell you that President Obama would likely send him to his maker at that point. hrmjustin Dec 2012 #56
Something that doesn't cost us money. Pacafishmate Dec 2012 #61
Invade Iran, obviously. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #62
The Alawite launch at the end, when the invaders break through the gates. The targets will be the leveymg Dec 2012 #68
I agree Dokkie Dec 2012 #96
It's a near certainty that the missile force is already on a Deadman's Trigger leveymg Dec 2012 #106
We shouldn't arm the rebels. That always causes blowback. craigmatic Dec 2012 #69
Whatever we do, if history is any indication whatchamacallit Dec 2012 #77
Sorry... did war crimes become illegal again? MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #79
Just the ones with high Q scores. allrevvedup Dec 2012 #84
That is because you lack nuance, Manny Fumesucker Dec 2012 #117
Whose response? MrSlayer Dec 2012 #85
And what should be the response if the rebels get their hands on some Sarin gas and use it? Prometheus Bound Dec 2012 #92
Nothing JVS Dec 2012 #95
Whatever has to be done. Firebrand Gary Dec 2012 #107
Fortunately, moondust Dec 2012 #111
It's as if death cults are using world governments to start another war Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #115
A lot of my thoughts have already been mentioned above Victor_c3 Dec 2012 #118
Thank you for your post and for your service. LongTomH Dec 2012 #156
Be like Israel - kill everyone you can and get praise for defending yourself The Straight Story Dec 2012 #119
First of all: Find out whether it is actually true or not. redgreenandblue Dec 2012 #121
I think Assad should, ideally, Dorian Gray Dec 2012 #124
If He starts killing people with chemical weapons Mangoman Dec 2012 #131
Cobalt Thorium G longship Dec 2012 #132
Um, unless he's releasing it in LA or NYC, it's not our business. Myrina Dec 2012 #133
If Assad sees no way out, he'll launch on Israel, at the very least. Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #173
Send France in to kick his ass slackmaster Dec 2012 #135
Whose response? Freddie Stubbs Dec 2012 #146
You mean there's a largely disliked world leader who oppresses his own people, hughee99 Dec 2012 #147
Michael ‏@_cypherpunks_ Truth provided by @DBCOOPA: #Syria is a proxy war. Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #148
Well, look what we did in Iraq, full scale invasion! quinnox Dec 2012 #155
I'll bet the rapture-ready crowd is having orgasms right now! LongTomH Dec 2012 #157
We always seem to have infinite money when it comes to war Ya Basta Dec 2012 #158
Breaking news: Gen Wesley Clark says an attack is not the best way to stop Syria's chemical weapons LongTomH Dec 2012 #160
well sure qazplm Dec 2012 #169
Like the last Three megalomaniacs we took out, send Soldiers... orpupilofnature57 Dec 2012 #177
UN peacekeepers in a police action, a hot-seat in a war-crimes tribunal... Chan790 Dec 2012 #178
If history is any indication, Mossad already has Assad in the crosshairs liberaltrucker Dec 2012 #180
Wowie.... woo me with science Dec 2012 #181
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