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Warren DeMontague

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69. And whether or not Rice becomes SOS isnt going to make or break whether it happens.
Sun Dec 9, 2012, 01:56 AM
Dec 2012

The Administration sets the policy. That means the Chief Executive. Not the Secretry of State.

And last time I checked, that was the question being discussed- who should be the next SOS.

But lets map out what you tried to do in that post, shall we? I'm not against Rice for SOS despite her alleged connection to the keystone pipeline and i mentioned, truthfully, that stopping the one pipeline isnt going to solve global warming, in fact it pobably wont stop the Canadian tar sands from being devloped at all ----> well, I must think the pipline is "okay", in fact I must be pro pipeline ----> in fact, im probably some sort of "born again CC Denier"

(Im not, by the way, but thanks)

That is a PRIME example of the sort of lame poo-flinging, masquerading as "political discussion", which is turning people off from DU. Thanks for the example.

If John Kerry has no exposure to oil or the pipeline I will be flabbergasted. dkf Dec 2012 #1
what helps KErry is he actually has a senate record and he has been good JI7 Dec 2012 #3
It's already on the record that Rice is more interventionist than Kerry. dkf Dec 2012 #9
i'm talking about the environmental issues in the OP JI7 Dec 2012 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author politicasista Dec 2012 #29
His money is in a true blind trust democrattotheend Dec 2012 #51
Can you say that Rice not have her money in a blind trust? The woman has $23-45 million. nt bluestate10 Dec 2012 #53
I don't know what her financial situation is democrattotheend Dec 2012 #58
She is massively wealthy, $23-45 million net. It is hard to know exactly everything a person bluestate10 Dec 2012 #83
From previous statements by his office, the stocks listed on Senate disclosures karynnj Dec 2012 #95
and if the repugs win his senate seat, once again we are screwed samsingh Dec 2012 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author politicasista Dec 2012 #19
The purist don't give a fuck about that. Honestly, they are worst than teabaggers some time. nt bluestate10 Dec 2012 #54
if people proporting to be JK's friends are doing this, aren't they now swiftboating someone? graham4anything Dec 2012 #4
really, you compare this to swift boating ? JI7 Dec 2012 #5
What a disgusting right wingish comment. ProSense Dec 2012 #6
He apparently owns the same stock she does dsc Dec 2012 #7
he also has a senate record with votes on these issues JI7 Dec 2012 #8
that seems to be one and the same, isn't it? That is disgusting. graham4anything Dec 2012 #11
they have no right to question the investments and how it might relate to her decisions as SOS ? JI7 Dec 2012 #14
politics as usual games against the president. graham4anything Dec 2012 #16
not if they are supporting someone who also owns the stock dsc Dec 2012 #21
but they have answers to the other person through their record in the senate JI7 Dec 2012 #27
Only if she was actually SoS and had not divested and was making the decision. jeff47 Dec 2012 #25
what if her decision would not be favorable to her investments ? JI7 Dec 2012 #28
Did you read my post at all? jeff47 Dec 2012 #31
but what if she doesn't sell and makes her decision would not be favorable JI7 Dec 2012 #34
:facepalm: jeff47 Dec 2012 #45
That you see NRDC as a fan group or political super pac shows you will say anything, no matter what blm Dec 2012 #52
My angle is not wanting a republican Scott Brown to reclaim a seat -he would win graham4anything Dec 2012 #72
Baloney - your 'concern' is BS. GOP hawks WANT Rice and are jerking Dems around as usual. blm Dec 2012 #74
No, I LIKE Susan Rice. I don't vote against someone, I vote FOR them. graham4anything Dec 2012 #77
Not buying what you're trying to sell. blm Dec 2012 #80
one needs to read and absorb, but I am not trying to change your mind. graham4anything Dec 2012 #82
Some of us know EXACTLY what you're doing. blm Dec 2012 #84
Becoming a senior Senator meant very little karynnj Dec 2012 #99
the line of succession in NY is great. In Mass. BECAUSE SOLELY OF KERRY-it now sucks biggie! graham4anything Dec 2012 #104
Kerry doesn't own stock ProSense Dec 2012 #15
Thanks for sticking up for the Senator politicasista Dec 2012 #17
MA is a community property state dsc Dec 2012 #18
I don't give a shit! n/t ProSense Dec 2012 #20
sorry you don't find facts to your liking dsc Dec 2012 #23
Here's a fact ProSense Dec 2012 #24
I don't have a problem with either one owning the stock dsc Dec 2012 #32
Quit the ProSense Dec 2012 #44
yes blind trusts are an equal opportunity scam dsc Dec 2012 #46
And your point is still nonsense. n/t ProSense Dec 2012 #47
The difference is that they are not blind trusts set up by Kerry karynnj Dec 2012 #100
JK and Teresa took legal steps to keep their finances separate from day one. blm Dec 2012 #49
unless she isn't planning on leaving him anything dsc Dec 2012 #59
It's completely separate. The Heinz sons and grandchildren are the only beneficiaries. blm Dec 2012 #60
"His" stocks are owned by trusts that he or Teresa are beneficiaries of but do not control karynnj Dec 2012 #97
the decision to buy isn't the worry dsc Dec 2012 #98
I think the decision to buy is significant if you are against getting oil from the tar sands karynnj Dec 2012 #103
From all accounts, his people are and have been silent on this because he karynnj Dec 2012 #101
No - these are environmental groups speaking on .... environmental issues karynnj Dec 2012 #96
This message was self-deleted by its author politicasista Dec 2012 #10
Secretary Kerry = Senator Brown Ruby the Liberal Dec 2012 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author politicasista Dec 2012 #30
You folks do know that president okieinpain Dec 2012 #22
He might- if and when concerns are addressed Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2012 #42
I'm tired of all of this frazzled Dec 2012 #26
so when NBC finally pays attention to this Enrique Dec 2012 #33
it would be boring without the political angle JI7 Dec 2012 #35
carpmanjohn Hogfish1 Dec 2012 #36
Welcome to DU and I hope you enjoy the site. hrmjustin Dec 2012 #37
Interesting politicasista Dec 2012 #39
Well I wanted Kerry but now I want the President to pick a fight and go with Rice. hrmjustin Dec 2012 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author politicasista Dec 2012 #43
Exactly as GOP expected. You really think McCain and Co don't prefer Rice and are cornering Obama blm Dec 2012 #55
Wishful thinking that it took the GOP to do that...the Dems are more than capable. Sad. libdem4life Dec 2012 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author politicasista Dec 2012 #48
You posted that before me... Mass Dec 2012 #66
It is his call...that's why it's so frustrating. libdem4life Dec 2012 #67
We have debated the issue of Kerry vacating the seat over and over. Some people can't bluestate10 Dec 2012 #61
This message was self-deleted by its author politicasista Dec 2012 #62
Diane Feinstein. Who's next, Joe Lieberman. Mass Dec 2012 #65
I think Obama will keep Feinstein on the straight and narrow. Getting her out of the Senate bluestate10 Dec 2012 #68
Actually, we've discussed it Le Taz Hot Dec 2012 #75
I see this as a GOP move to cost us a Senate Seat. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #38
More like a GOP dog and pony show to promote Rice the neocon over Kerry the noninterventionist blm Dec 2012 #50
Come on. Rice was clearly the Administration's first choice. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #71
Not a chess game - it's a dog and pony show. When have GOP hawks ever come out so vocally blm Dec 2012 #76
BTW - I don't buy the Rice as first choice scenario. GOP's going out of their way to ACT like she is blm Dec 2012 #79
Global warming and other damage will be unimpacted by the pipeline? TheKentuckian Dec 2012 #57
And whether or not Rice becomes SOS isnt going to make or break whether it happens. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #69
So you hold that the pipeline will not have an adverse effect on the climate and environment? TheKentuckian Dec 2012 #87
That's the other thing people do. They put words in people's mouths so they can have the argument Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #88
That is EXACTLY my interpretation of what you are doing TheKentuckian Dec 2012 #93
You responded to me, first. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #94
Obama needs to name his pick and support them through the process. morningfog Dec 2012 #56
He will name his pick when the appropriate time comes- AFTER INAUGURATION graham4anything Dec 2012 #73
"Kerry's name won't go away" bluestateguy Dec 2012 #63
This message was self-deleted by its author Mass Dec 2012 #64
It's silly to see Kerry as the "left" alternative for SoS. Ken Burch Dec 2012 #70
That shows how inattentive you were back then, Ken, and apparently still inattentive today. blm Dec 2012 #81
in 2004, Kerry ran AGAINST the antiwar movement. Ken Burch Dec 2012 #89
Baloney, Ken - you bought into a NARRATIVE that suited your inattentiveness. Plain and simple. blm Dec 2012 #90
I read it. I also lived through it. Ken Burch Dec 2012 #91
Pure BS. Your demand that the Dem needed to run against the reality that existed blm Dec 2012 #92
I'll concede that he was SLIGHTLY differerent...fine. Ken Burch Dec 2012 #105
You trust McCain and the other GOPs sincerity? Rice is a neocon who are easily manipulated by hawks. blm Dec 2012 #106
The administration was smart NOT to appoint Elizabeth Warren as head of the CFPA tularetom Dec 2012 #78
I don't understand why Progressives keep pushing Kerry. bluestate10 Dec 2012 #85
Let me see, how many Senators voted for Kerry/Feingold? karynnj Dec 2012 #102
here`s 20 pages of her financial holdings and such... madrchsod Dec 2012 #86
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