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slightlv

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28. I completely agree with your statement.
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 08:27 PM
Oct 2024

However, the problem is... in a pluralistic democracy, what do you do with the 1/3 of the American people who have a *different* vision, but are just as passionately committed to it? To make the problem worse, that 1/3 of the people believe they have waited long enough to see their vision accomplished and are now willing to do anything... lie, cheat, steal, murder... in order to finally make it manifest?

We are committed to our vision, because we believe it's not only constitutional, but also in the spirit of the founding fathers. Unfortunately, there were disagreements within the group of founding fathers. And I think we're still seeing that disagreement play out today. Our continual problem has been striking a balance between these two major disagreements. Today, we've seen it blow up to where "they" feel only violence will end it. I don't see how we get out of this except by splitting the country in two sections. But there are SO many issues and problems doing that... and that's before we get to the point that they will probably never hold true to any compact or treaty.

This should be decided at each and every election. That's the way it should be done. But there IS too much gerryrigging, cheating, attempting to cheat, and election (not voter) fraud. I don't know how we get it back to an acceptable baseline, and I don't know if getting it there will help as long as we have one party who's willing to do anything to ensure they win. One thing I know I do desperately want is one person-one vote, IOW... no more electoral college!

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Excellant comments Attilatheblond Oct 2024 #1
The violent threats are coming from white male psychos with guns. onecaliberal Oct 2024 #2
Yes, if the drumpf were to disappear tomorrow, like a miracle... The Blue Flower Oct 2024 #3
+1 nt Dave Bowman Oct 2024 #5
We must reframe this core philosophy. CincyDem Oct 2024 #4
You're absolutely right. Morbius Oct 2024 #7
Visited The South. Saw the kudzu! Eghads! electric_blue68 Oct 2024 #11
Government is not the problem. Republicans in government is the problem. Beartracks Oct 2024 #8
It would have been more accurate if Reagan had said Frank D. Lincoln Oct 2024 #27
It's bdamomma Oct 2024 #6
The real problem is the Trump voters NameAlreadyTaken Oct 2024 #9
Not necessarily. Morbius Oct 2024 #10
He has exposed the massive bigotry in USA. Funtatlaguy Oct 2024 #12
Right now...in this moment in history...DONALD TRUMP IS THE PROBLEM. AZ8theist Oct 2024 #13
We have to treat the symptom. Morbius Oct 2024 #15
Exactly. markodochartaigh Oct 2024 #29
'ask not what your country et tu Oct 2024 #14
Excellent post. llmart Oct 2024 #16
Yes, Trump is symptomatic lonely bird Oct 2024 #17
We have to defeat Project 2025. dchill Oct 2024 #18
Yes. Morbius Oct 2024 #20
K & R Good work! FakeNoose Oct 2024 #19
What does K & R mean? Morbius Oct 2024 #21
"Kick and Recommend" FakeNoose Oct 2024 #22
I see that you're new to DU ... so WELCOME TO THE CLUB! FakeNoose Oct 2024 #24
While I agree with you Metaphorical Oct 2024 #23
Thank you for the intelligent and thoughtful response. Morbius Oct 2024 #25
Well said. K&R. Welcome to DU. n/t (which means no/text below reply title line.) ms liberty Oct 2024 #26
I completely agree with your statement. slightlv Oct 2024 #28
We should agree, along with those whose opinions we hate... Morbius Oct 2024 #31
Old old post of mine: Trump is not the real problem CloudWatcher Oct 2024 #30
Welcome aboard, Morbius Dave says Oct 2024 #32
Yup, yup. BlueWavePsych Oct 2024 #33
It started with Reagan MadameButterfly Oct 2024 #34
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