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60. I agree. It seems like some of the people who didn't have children have a sense of moral superiority about it.

Sun Oct 13, 2024, 02:21 PM

Oct 13

It's as if those of us who had children should be ashamed of it, like we're solely responsible for the health of the planet. I do agree with those who said it should always be about choice.

I would pose the question of what kind of planet would it be if the parents who gave us Jimmy Carter or Einstein or those who have done research that found a cure for some cancers? Or Dr. Fauci or Dr. Salk? What about those of us women who raised a genius who is also kind, compassionate and a functioning member of society and who is working on solutions for environmental problems?

It's silly to think that women like myself who really wanted to be a mother and who can honestly say they enjoyed the experience of raising children should consider not having any for the sake of the planet.

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I never wanted kids [View all] XanaDUer2 Oct 13 OP

Very sound reasoning Mossfern Oct 13 #1

I saw employees w kids struggling XanaDUer2 Oct 13 #2

So you saw some families too poor to have children? It was "Not worth it"? That your decision for the Wonder Why Oct 13 #17

If someone wants kids, they're free to make XanaDUer2 Oct 13 #27

Time to walk the walk.... raising2moredems Oct 13 #110

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Oct 13 #11

Yes it is, and its killing the planet Evolve Dammit Oct 13 #12

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Oct 13 #23

Arable land per head of population canetoad Oct 13 #77

Arable land Cirsium Oct 13 #91

Yeah, you ARE wrong. Sky Jewels Oct 13 #84

Her comment was actually that she supported 3 of her 4 children's decision not to have children Jmb 4 Harris-Walz Oct 13 #16

Thank you Mossfern Oct 13 #61

It was perfectly clear. I had no trouble understanding it. niyad Oct 13 #104

It absolutely is. Jirel Oct 13 #21

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Oct 13 #24

Aw, you can't even argue the point. Jirel Oct 13 #35

I agree biophile Oct 13 #40

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Oct 13 #89

You are allowed your opinion biophile Oct 13 #39

It is not that Cirsium Oct 13 #54

I see the truth in that biophile Oct 13 #74

Thanks n/t Cirsium Oct 13 #83

"We are living in a time when a highly destructive economic system dominates everything." OldBaldy1701E Oct 13 #80

Thank you for your post. Collimator Oct 13 #86

We are indeed overpopulated Envirogal Oct 13 #103

Thanks Cirsium Oct 14 #114

you sound like a bot 4catsmom Oct 13 #82

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Oct 13 #90

Most of the damage Cirsium Oct 13 #37

True biophile Oct 13 #41

Population is what leads to all you mentioned. Envirogal Oct 14 #115

Excellent points Cirsium Oct 14 #120

You cannot point to any social problem bluescribbler Oct 13 #46

Women's rights Cirsium Oct 13 #85

I am NOT tellilng my kids not to have children Mossfern Oct 13 #58

Just a terrible response krkaufman Oct 13 #72

Of course the planet is overpopulated. Sky Jewels Oct 13 #81

I just think things are getting too dangerous and ugly. kerry-is-my-prez Oct 13 #48

I've never for even one moment moreland01 Oct 13 #87

I never wanted children either. FalloutShelter Oct 13 #3

I was also the one not intested in holding the baby XanaDUer2 Oct 13 #5

Same FalloutShelter Oct 13 #6

The smell of baby powder XanaDUer2 Oct 13 #8

My sisters and my mom understood I_UndergroundPanther Oct 13 #67

And that's your right XanaDUer2 Oct 13 #68

You are so right! Mossfern Oct 13 #7

So glad your mothering experience has FalloutShelter Oct 13 #20

I can relate! birdographer Oct 13 #15

Same here. Somebody shows up with a baby, the best I can do Ocelot II Oct 13 #34

Show up with a baby I_UndergroundPanther Oct 13 #70

I have had to quietly leave the room in those circumstances. Demobrat Oct 13 #75

Somebody has to care for the animals! moreland01 Oct 13 #88

Yep - I was the same. "Do not ask me to hold the baby" was what I'd think. kerry-is-my-prez Oct 13 #51

Were you able to pursue your artitic goals? electric_blue68 Oct 13 #94

Yes, I have.... FalloutShelter Oct 13 #98

YW👍 Wow, that's great! ... electric_blue68 Oct 14 #116

I love babies. Just never wanted any of my own. Iris Oct 13 #111

I always wanted kids & to be an artist womanofthehills Oct 14 #113

Every woman has the right to make her own decisions. Diamond_Dog Oct 13 #4

A VERY SPECIAL kind of POS. calimary Oct 13 #18

Can't blame you one bit. I had none (purposefully) for the same reasons! n/t CousinIT Oct 13 #9

It's grossly sexist that Vance and Republicans think Quiet Em Oct 13 #10

It's your freedom to decide - the government shouldn't have any control over our reproductive systems...NONE. Told iluvtennis Oct 13 #13

Absolutely XanaDUer2 Oct 13 #28

I have to ask KT2000 Oct 13 #14

Because he wants to have cheap and uneducated manpower for corporations manpower. Take away good Jmb 4 Harris-Walz Oct 13 #22

I wonder if he saw the new series on the Menendez brothers... birdographer Oct 13 #19

I'm a childless dog lady 😂 Jmb 4 Harris-Walz Oct 13 #29

These superstorms and raging fires XanaDUer2 Oct 13 #33

Just for clarity misanthrope Oct 13 #105

Churches have convinced some women that TBF Oct 13 #25

I never wanted kids either. In fact, I most vehemently Demobrat Oct 13 #26

I like your name Demobrat! nt Jmb 4 Harris-Walz Oct 13 #30

Id be given babydolls as a very young child XanaDUer2 Oct 13 #36

I was given a babydoll once. Demobrat Oct 13 #49

Lolol! XanaDUer2 Oct 13 #50

Are you my daughter? Mossfern Oct 13 #65

I'm the oldest of four. The first time I remember Demobrat Oct 13 #66

Different daughter Mossfern Oct 13 #69

Agree. Jirel Oct 13 #31

I don't think you should knock motherhood as being uninteresting. LisaM Oct 13 #95

nothing more interesting to do? that's just ugly NoRethugFriends Oct 13 #107

What woman votes for vermin like him and Trump? piddyprints Oct 13 #32

Like I said, coworkers XanaDUer2 Oct 13 #38

I love kids but having my own was never a priority. Siwsan Oct 13 #42

I knew I could not handle working XanaDUer2 Oct 13 #43

Married 54 years this week. Two daughters who I des ribe as the best thing.... EarnestPutz Oct 13 #44

Kids are annoying I_UndergroundPanther Oct 13 #45

Looking at active 55-plus condos XanaDUer2 Oct 13 #47

I can't stand the screeching either. Demobrat Oct 13 #56

Wow. Such anti children sentiment in this stream. NoRethugFriends Oct 13 #52

I agree. It seems like some of the people who didn't have children have a sense of moral superiority about it. llmart Oct 13 #60

Don't feel morally superior I_UndergroundPanther Oct 22 #122

Just being honest I_UndergroundPanther Oct 22 #121

here's a really good discussion with a woman who got off the maga train barbtries Oct 13 #53

Ty nt XanaDUer2 Oct 13 #55

We never had 'em, never wanted them. 634-5789 Oct 13 #57

Lol XanaDUer2 Oct 13 #59

I never thought I was responsible enough to have kids. And I was right. Iggo Oct 13 #62

Sorry. Ended up long post, but I needed to get it off my chest. Please forgive me. slightlv Oct 13 #63

Ty for sharing XanaDUer2 Oct 13 #64

I have a sister like your daughter. Demobrat Oct 13 #78

Love your last sentence! (LOL) slightlv Oct 13 #97

I think I_UndergroundPanther Oct 22 #123

I tend to agree to at least a genetic predisposition. slightlv Oct 22 #124

the pressure for people to have kids very much contributes to abuse Skittles Oct 13 #71

I'm my 20s XanaDUer2 Oct 13 #73

Me too. He was wrong. I didn't. Demobrat Oct 13 #76

Everyone will view this question through their own life's lens. DFW Oct 13 #79

When I was around 4 yrs 7ish wks old; I knew... electric_blue68 Oct 13 #92

Circa 72 XanaDUer2 Oct 13 #93

My sis wasn't screaming. Maaaybe a brief look, really not sure...but, ugh, the smell! electric_blue68 Oct 13 #96

What woman votes for Trump? One who hates people of color more than she loves herself. SunSeeker Oct 13 #99

Me neither for about the same reasons. I also lack tolerance of people slow to sinkingfeeling Oct 13 #100

I'm not the only one in my family without children. no_hypocrisy Oct 13 #101

Same. Have them if you want, but it was never a high priority to me. D23MIURG23 Oct 13 #102

The same here, both for the population and wage slave reasons, but also niyad Oct 13 #106

Hear, hear. peppertree Oct 13 #108

I dont know Figarosmom Oct 13 #109

Didn't even have choice in the matter. Xolodno Oct 13 #112

Religious fanatics who seem to be so insecure of their own agency they need a cult figure with a "Bible" msfiddlestix Oct 14 #117

Strong supporter of women's rights to have or not have children! Clouds Passing Oct 14 #118

OMG DU is full of childless catladies! jfz9580m Oct 14 #119