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moniss

(6,465 posts)
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 06:01 PM Nov 2024

Say whatever but I'm being asked to believe some things [View all]

that don't seem to add up. First of all we all saw with our own eyes the huge excitement and record increases in registrations, huge packed crowds for Harris, dwindling disinterested crowds for him and yet supposedly Harris got fewer votes than Biden? Supposedly the Orange Ruski way increased his? So for the Harris end of things to be true they would have me believe that not only did none of the new registrants go vote but some who turned out in 2020 and voted for Biden/Harris didn't either. Or some weird combination of that? The decline in Biden voters would have to be absolutely massive and nothing was showing that. But OK let's say we accept this super weird difference between what we saw and what supposedly happened because somebody wanted "cheaper eggs". We are still left with the second huge discrepancy between what we saw, knew and experienced and what supposedly happened.

The 2nd thing is they would also have me believe that the Orange Ruski lost zero support and in fact gained significantly after bungling the Covid pandemic, separating screaming children from their parents, after planning and stoking a violent insurrection attempt, being found liable for sexual assault, after being convicted of 34 felonies and after verifiable evidence of obstruction of justice and mishandling highly classified national security documents and justifiable concerns about some of those documents missing and whether he trafficked them.

Then comes the third thing. We are supposed to believe that this all happened in every swing state no matter whether North, South, East or West with widely different economic and cultural circumstances.

One of those three things happening stretches credulity but for all 3 to occur? I mean really. At the same time? Well I guess Diddy has nothing to worry about because once the court is done with him he's going to be chosen to be the next Pope and buy the winning ticket for a billion dollar Powerball jackpot all on the same day. Seems plausible doesn't it?

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The Odds Of Losing EVERY Swing State Were Very High SoCalDavidS Nov 2024 #1
Imitation Game Blue Full Moon Nov 2024 #3
Just curious how you Progressive dog Nov 2024 #84
Harris sure seemed to have all the momentum at the end SomedayKindaLove Nov 2024 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2024 #5
Biden polled very unpopular no matter what he did. Klarkashton Nov 2024 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2024 #6
He was extremely unpopular. I never experienced Klarkashton Nov 2024 #7
Yeah I never got the Biden hate jfz9580m Nov 2024 #78
Gaza OrangeJoe Nov 2024 #91
Yup-pretty much.nt jfz9580m Nov 2024 #96
And I will NEVER be able to understand why. calimary Nov 2024 #26
Nor me. 3catwoman3 Nov 2024 #67
Mainly because he picked Kamala as his VP. Next because he ran a second time when he intimated that he would not. Jit423 Nov 2024 #68
Fox news, that's who complained about him. Relentlessly. Until people believed it. SharonAnn Nov 2024 #69
All of the media complained relentlessly Bettie Nov 2024 #80
Inherited it ? CentralMass Nov 2024 #28
Harris didn't poll poorly. live love laugh Nov 2024 #41
People who got student loan and cannabis_flower Nov 2024 #94
There was no possible way to make good on Klarkashton Nov 2024 #95
This message was self-deleted by its author polichick Nov 2024 #8
just on the question on new registrations Hamlette Nov 2024 #9
I've done registration outreach at high schools... littlemissmartypants Nov 2024 #12
Here's the data... littlemissmartypants Nov 2024 #10
Once again--there are MILLIONS of votes in Calif., Oregon, and WA yet to be spooky3 Nov 2024 #11
I've been watching that KH total every day and littlemissmartypants Nov 2024 #14
I don't think AP has posted updates since Friday - for example, spooky3 Nov 2024 #15
I know. ... littlemissmartypants Nov 2024 #19
Yes, I don't think she will reach Biden's numbers but she may get closer. spooky3 Nov 2024 #20
Lawrence O just said that PA also has lots of votes to count. nt spooky3 Nov 2024 #63
78% now soandso Nov 2024 #45
That's not AP, but maybe AP gets its #s from that site. spooky3 Nov 2024 #52
I don't know where Decision Desk appeared from soandso Nov 2024 #56
The net of those uncounted votes would have to swing MASSIVELY in Harris's favor to make much difference. paleotn Nov 2024 #23
I did not argue that she would gain, let alone net, 10M votes. But she will likely spooky3 Nov 2024 #25
Understood. The gap may narrow a bit but it's still a huge gap. Weird. Just weird. paleotn Nov 2024 #31
Current numbers soandso Nov 2024 #47
The anomaly was 2020 soandso Nov 2024 #46
All the votes have not been counted yet. Farmer-Rick Nov 2024 #17
I know. ... littlemissmartypants Nov 2024 #21
At best she gets 6M of those. At best. More likely 5.5M or less. The gap won't close much. paleotn Nov 2024 #24
My personal opinion is that a lot of voters in 2020 were upset about how spooky3 Nov 2024 #29
Can't argue with that. I just can't wrap my head around how even that could shift 2020 this much. paleotn Nov 2024 #36
I agree. nt spooky3 Nov 2024 #37
2020 had record turn out due to covid accommodations LeftInTX Nov 2024 #30
The votes didn't switch soandso Nov 2024 #48
Look at the down ballot races! LeftInTX Nov 2024 #50
How? soandso Nov 2024 #53
Yep. Compare with a benign statewide or countywide race LeftInTX Nov 2024 #55
So, it's not more voting down ballot now soandso Nov 2024 #58
You left third party candidates out of your stats. LeftInTX Nov 2024 #60
True! soandso Nov 2024 #62
thanks either way! nt spooky3 Nov 2024 #64
We don't really have the data to show crossovers, yet. nt spooky3 Nov 2024 #66
How much of that number was successful vote supression? JHB Nov 2024 #49
And, we lost a million people during COVID. nt spooky3 Nov 2024 #65
See the thom Hartman show NJCher Nov 2024 #77
All those big deal things you cited that you and we all really care about? They don't mean doodly squat to maggots. NBachers Nov 2024 #13
Really can't argue with that. It won't matter to them. paleotn Nov 2024 #27
Robinson is black. mnhtnbb Nov 2024 #38
To a degree, yes. But Tim Scott doesn't seem to have a problem with it. paleotn Nov 2024 #39
What are the exit polls saying? Unless those are tampered with too. kerry-is-my-prez Nov 2024 #16
Voter Turnout dsvajda Nov 2024 #18
Thank you! That is what I've been trying to get across to people. littlemissmartypants Nov 2024 #22
Could it in any way be because too many people just aren't ready for a woman president? calimary Nov 2024 #32
I didn't say you were insensitive or even that turnout wasn't depressed. I just said we don't yet have all the facts so spooky3 Nov 2024 #33
Wow....that is a massive falloff. How many voted in 2016? yourout Nov 2024 #34
Turnout was higher in 2024 than 2016 LeftInTX Nov 2024 #35
Yes, true per Google AI--population was about 4% higher but voters about 14% higher spooky3 Nov 2024 #57
The GOP areas are where all the lines were this cycle. LeftInTX Nov 2024 #59
Trump has NOT had a huge increase in votes from the last election soandso Nov 2024 #40
So you think that it's not odd that he lost not one single voter of any kind moniss Nov 2024 #70
Not really soandso Nov 2024 #72
But all of his voters moniss Nov 2024 #74
He got roughly the same number of votes as in 2020 soandso Nov 2024 #75
The fourth thing! CommonHumanity Nov 2024 #42
I didn't think Harris would win Georgia. Ilsa Nov 2024 #43
The fourth thing! CommonHumanity Nov 2024 #44
what happened is covid caused inflation, and Biden/Harris got blamed for it Takket Nov 2024 #51
I've wondered too. And trump won all the swing states... brush Nov 2024 #54
moniss.......... Upthevibe Nov 2024 #61
Being an old Techie.. bobalew Nov 2024 #71
A lot of people who were upset about Gaza seem to have stayed home or voted Trump. summer_in_TX Nov 2024 #73
I had this disagreement w the polls all year. D23MIURG23 Nov 2024 #76
What I've come to understand... Montauk6 Nov 2024 #79
How long ago did Musk give Putin Starlink? Plenty of time for Russia to use it to hack our election. 58Sunliner Nov 2024 #81
The only thing that makes sense... Dem4life1970 Nov 2024 #82
In 2020 it was mail in ballots PennRalphie Nov 2024 #83
It's a money grab CindalaB Nov 2024 #85
Don't believe the BS ms.pamela Nov 2024 #86
Also rmember the close relationship of Musk and Putin. nt moniss Nov 2024 #90
Check out @Spoonamore on Spoutible nbsmom Nov 2024 #92
FUCK TRUMP Obamna Nov 2024 #87
mathematically impossible ItsMaam Nov 2024 #88
Also Eloon Musk apparently used his Starlink satellite to transmit election results OMGWTF Nov 2024 #89
I don't know... onlyadream Nov 2024 #93
There's no doubt repugs cheated and a lot of us are clinging to a hope KS Toronado Nov 2024 #97
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