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Captain Stern

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85. I don't get how that would keep the system solvent.
Sun Nov 17, 2024, 03:07 AM
Nov 17

Someone born in 1990 wouldn't turn 67 until 2057, so it seems like raising the age when they could start receiving benefits wouldn't have any effect at all until then.

As things stand, social security is running at a deficit. More money is being paid out in benefits than we are paying in. The difference is being made up by the federal government paying back the money that was borrowed from SS during the years where the program ran at a surplus. It is projected that all of that money will be paid back in 2034.

If nothing is done before then, to either increase SS revenue, decrease SS spending, or both, people who are receiving SS benefits in 2034 will take an immediate cut of about 20%.

Unfortunately, if raising the age we can receive benefits is going to be part of the solution, it's going to have to be applied to folks who were born way before 1990. I think we're talking more like 1960.

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Most of these guys are thinking with their gonads Walleye Nov 16 #1
Fine, freeze a sample and remove them until they fully fund child support for any possible children LiberalArkie Nov 16 #49
My jackass siblings and their equally stupid kids have been voting MAGAt for decades. CousinIT Nov 16 #2
I know your pain jaxexpat Nov 16 #13
My Republican brother who couldn't stand Trump, but then voted for him. kerry-is-my-prez Nov 16 #62
"brother, can you spare a bitcoin?" rampartd Nov 16 #3
Funny how the rich guys always get to make the decisions for the rest of us. LakeVermilion Nov 16 #4
Years ago moniss Nov 16 #6
Huh? Can you clarify for the concept challenged. You lost me. jaxexpat Nov 16 #14
People who make, let's say $250,000 per year, pay FICA (Social Security tax) on the front earnings until... LakeVermilion Nov 16 #17
IIRC the FICA maximum for tax and benefit calculations is about $169,000 now. Dave says Nov 16 #19
Thanks, I was too lazy to search for the amount. LakeVermilion Nov 16 #25
Make it 200K and you've fixed SS's funding problem. paleotn Nov 16 #60
I read somewhere MAGAts won't vote for that now. CousinIT Nov 16 #74
And it wouldn't hurt anybody. yardwork Nov 17 #93
Oh, okay. I always understood that to be the case. Is it not common knowledge? jaxexpat Nov 16 #38
Nothing real is common knowledge anymore. yardwork Nov 17 #92
Food Stamps (SNAP) wanderer54 Nov 16 #5
Yes indeed and sadly moniss Nov 16 #9
Food stamps... orwell Nov 16 #32
What you are missing is that... SnoopDog Nov 16 #7
Not a matter of missing it. moniss Nov 16 #10
'fraid your exactly right. Congratulations, I see you as officially a member of the progressive nation. jaxexpat Nov 16 #16
this. it's about theft. ZonkerHarris Nov 16 #26
YOU HAVE IT EXACTLY RIGHT! It drive them nuts that all that money is sitting there & THEY can't get THEIR cut... period! usaf-vet Nov 16 #40
MAGAts fail to realize that the economy is dependent on SPENDING.. ProudMNDemocrat Nov 16 #8
Very well put and moniss Nov 16 #12
I've tried to explain this to my coworker's, friends and inlaws . luvallpeeps Nov 16 #29
Ir doesn't require a Rocket Scientist to figure that out. ProudMNDemocrat Nov 16 #68
MAGAts are notorious for being simultaneously ignorant and evil n/t CousinIT Nov 16 #75
Everything that's being proposed is economic suicide Picaro Nov 16 #11
Exactly. kerry-is-my-prez Nov 16 #39
Bingo Emile Nov 17 #94
It's sounding more like... 2naSalit Nov 16 #15
Another hidden gem that Republicans have in mind is Medicaid limits. Lonestarblue Nov 16 #18
The strange thing The Madcap Nov 16 #21
I have begun to suspect that ... dchill Nov 16 #48
Excellent point about the caps moniss Nov 16 #22
With Project 2025, they plan on getting rid of Medicaid. kerry-is-my-prez Nov 16 #41
yup Skittles Nov 16 #59
Idiots. byronius Nov 16 #20
US farm subsidies need to be cut long before Medicare and Social Security get cut FakeNoose Nov 16 #23
Remember when Trump had to shovel even *more* payments to the farmers... keep_left Nov 16 #35
A 30% cut in payments will be about half a trilion dollars Old Crank Nov 16 #24
Yup! PortTack Nov 16 #27
MAGAts know how to shoot..... lastlib Nov 16 #28
I Guess None Of The MAGA'S Are On SS or Medicare..... global1 Nov 16 #30
I worked with a wealthy Realtor who said that her social security check was pretty much a bonus to be used kerry-is-my-prez Nov 16 #44
Not All MAGA'S Are That Wealthy..... global1 Nov 16 #66
"Also - I'm sure there are non-MAGA'S that share the same sentiment that you lady expressed." OldBaldy1701E Nov 17 #91
More to the point, apparently none of them have elderly mothers PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 16 #79
One statistic to pay attention to BidenRocks Nov 16 #31
Sadly that is one statistic I am moniss Nov 16 #43
Sounds like another episode of "Be Careful What You Wish For". calimary Nov 16 #33
They also might have to help their grandparents (or lose help from their grandparents) nt gulliver Nov 16 #34
Welcome to Great Depression II MissouriDem47 Nov 16 #36
no one is cutting ss and medicare for those already receiving benefits. WarGamer Nov 16 #37
Nonsense you apparently didn't moniss Nov 16 #42
Yep - a 30% cut was mentioned, I believe. And what about people 60 and under? kerry-is-my-prez Nov 16 #45
link to a proposed 30% cut in SS/MC... I'll wait. WarGamer Nov 16 #47
if nothing is done about SS the immediate cut is projected to be 21% Skittles Nov 16 #69
I'm pretty sure moniss Nov 16 #50
All we need is for the billionaires to pay their fair share into SS dwayneb Nov 16 #80
link to where he mentioned cutting SS/MC... I'll wait. WarGamer Nov 16 #46
Agreed, from what I saw FreeForm73 Nov 16 #52
you're referring to the RSC Budget proposal... which affects future retirees WarGamer Nov 16 #55
Exactly n/t FreeForm73 Nov 16 #64
Since their proposal is moniss Nov 16 #58
because we only care about "current recipients" Skittles Nov 16 #67
Are you in favor of those born after 1990 receive full benefits at 69 instead of 67? WarGamer Nov 16 #70
no, I am not Skittles Nov 16 #71
I don't get how that would keep the system solvent. Captain Stern Nov 17 #85
can't be 1960. Many are already on SS... and planned life for retirement WarGamer Nov 17 #86
Was pondering a similar theme yesterday. You see the full picture and why this bluster won't ever happen. paleotn Nov 16 #51
The problem is also that they will moniss Nov 16 #63
i just wonder how the right wing media infrastructure will twist kimbutgar Nov 16 #53
"It's the economy stupid." Dave Id Nov 16 #54
so fucking SICK of cleaning up repuke mess Skittles Nov 16 #72
What if there are no more elections MadameButterfly Nov 17 #96
I'm sure someone has already identified that Dan Nov 16 #56
One of the problems we have is the wealthy moniss Nov 16 #65
MAGA are not economically literate liberal N proud Nov 16 #57
Psst; I don't think they know what 'Literate' means... Mr.Bee Nov 16 #61
Only if the cult told them would they know. liberal N proud Nov 16 #73
That's the bottom line. Right!? yellow dahlia Nov 16 #76
can i ask what inspired this OP? were cuts announced today? Takket Nov 16 #77
is this true? SleeplessinSouth Nov 16 #78
Ron is full of crap. moniss Nov 16 #81
The subject of drastic budget cuts amounting to 2 trillion moniss Nov 16 #82
I guess that the "firehose of falsehood" approach of the Trump regime is working... keep_left Nov 16 #83
Yes and it harks back to the moniss Nov 17 #84
My father (born 1922) explained it to me a long time ago Martin Eden Nov 17 #87
Well put and I don't remember where I first heard this other moniss Nov 17 #88
Thanks, I hadn't heard that before. Makes a lot of sense. Martin Eden Nov 17 #89
Exactly, demand from consumers create jobs and fuel the economy. Emile Nov 17 #95
Rick Scott who defrauded Medicare and Medicaid out of billions Emile Nov 17 #90
Rec keep_left Nov 17 #97
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