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In reply to the discussion: 30 yrs ago today: Ukraine disarmed itself voluntarily in exchange for security assurances from US, Britain and Russia [View all]Emrys
(8,125 posts)31. What would really be foolish is to imagine that Ukraine's position was strong enough at the time to attempt such a ploy.
And, yeah, that tactic's worked out well for North Korea and Iran so far, to name just a couple.
More often, the countries that have successfully developed nuclear arms have done so relatively quietly, even if that's required the major powers to turn a blind eye. Israel, for example.
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30 yrs ago today: Ukraine disarmed itself voluntarily in exchange for security assurances from US, Britain and Russia [View all]
Dennis Donovan
Dec 5
OP
The threat would have set up Ukraine for military intervention PDQ to prevent it spreading nuclear materials and weapons
Emrys
Dec 6
#18
Your position would see nuclear materials and weapons in the hands of even bigger crooks and bastards -
Emrys
Dec 6
#26
What would really be foolish is to imagine that Ukraine's position was strong enough at the time to attempt such a ploy.
Emrys
Dec 6
#31
While the leaders signed the documents they crossed their fingers behind their backs.
Jacson6
Dec 5
#5
No, but he had an Ukrainian girlfriend we helped to leave after Putin invaded.
sinkingfeeling
Dec 6
#23
Thanks to the Nunn-Lugar Act, and Ash Carter. The Budapest Memorandum meant that...
FailureToCommunicate
Dec 5
#8
You don't get my meaning. That sliver of land in the Kursk oblast isn't existential to the Russian regime's existence.
paleotn
Dec 6
#33